Chris_ Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 From an evolutionary perspective the answer is simple - humans would be extinct were it not for eating meat. Heck, even a 100 years ago a plant based diet would have resulted in B12 deficiency and probably death. There were no supplements back then. You brought this point up. I explained how I think it could have been resolved. Many years ago humans would have all the B12 they needed from eating organ meat. 10 grams of liver gives you more B12 than you need for the day.
GrahamS2 Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Jainism? Buddhism? There were vegetarians 2500 years ago.Um, not all Buddhists are vegetarians. Many eat pork and chicken
Goodbadugly Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Calcium.https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/toolbox/calcium-intake-for-cyclists/
Patchelicious Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I don't care much for fad diets but I think that all of us vegans and meat eaters should agree that the hell on earth that is factory farming should stop.I think all us humans need to acknowledge that you can't solve a human pollution problem with a dietary solution based on ethics. Edited January 31, 2019 by Patchelicious Edition 507 and Milkman 2
Goodbadugly Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Jainism? Buddhism? There were vegetarians 2500 years ago.These were vegetarians. Not vegan. As far as I am concerned they only share some foods. Worlds apart. Vegetarians? I get that. And understand.Radical vegans? Nope.
_David_ Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 I think all us humans need to acknowledge that you can't solve a human pollution problem with a dietary solution based on ethics. There are 40 tonnes of insects per person in the world... just saying :-)
Patchelicious Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 There are 40 tonnes of insects per person in the world... just saying :-)Again, that dietary choice will not solve the core population issue.
Patchelicious Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 There are 40 tonnes of insects per person in the world... just saying :-)But on that point, where do insects fall on sentient spectrum for the vegans participating in this thread? Would you eat them? Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
_David_ Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Again, that dietary choice will not solve the core population issue. So factory farming is the answer?
Odinson Posted January 31, 2019 Author Posted January 31, 2019 Many years ago humans would have all the B12 they needed from eating organ meat. 10 grams of liver gives you more B12 than you need for the day. Unfiltered water and unwashed plant foods - rich source of B12.
Patchelicious Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 So factory farming is the answer?Thats the kind of answer snark I would expect from a teenager.
Odinson Posted January 31, 2019 Author Posted January 31, 2019 But on that point, where do insects fall on sentient spectrum for the vegans participating in this thread? Would you eat them? Why would anyone need to eat insects?
Odinson Posted January 31, 2019 Author Posted January 31, 2019 I think all us humans need to acknowledge that you can't solve a human pollution problem with a dietary solution based on ethics. And then what?
_David_ Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Thats the kind of answer snark I would expect from a teenager. So in you opinion what is the solution?
_David_ Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 I read that a A Dutch team from Maastricht University managed to grow a burger from the stem cells of a cow. Only problem it cost about £250,000.
Patchelicious Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 So in you opinion what is the solution? The solution to what?
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