LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Thank you all for you feedback..even those I responses I didn't like were still invaluable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkitech Posted January 25, 2019 Share Sounds like de ja vu... I'm sure I remember this being asked and discussed in decent length in at least one, maybe 2 other threads, but over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB280DT Posted January 25, 2019 Share https://www.takealot.com/black-screen-hidden-gps-bicycle-tracker/PLID53395475?gclid=Cj0KCQiAhKviBRCNARIsAAGZ7Ced8Tn7qJbxs3mQ0nq5k6cxDmDbfxlUB8I8ZmVimLe8xymWow07bNIaAqjBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Another one: https://www.sherlock.bike/en/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Sounds like de ja vu... I'm sure I remember this being asked and discussed in decent length in at least one, maybe 2 other threads, but over a year ago.The first thing I did was search the forums with little success and has but has there any resolution or substantial usable feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 25, 2019 Share The first thing I did was search the forums with little success and has but has there any resolution or substantial usable feedback?search term:trackerforum:tech Q&A sure there are more threads out there if you try a little harder https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/165993-gps-tags-for-stolen-bikes/?hl=tracker https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/155130-gps-anti-theft-device-for-bicycle/?hl=tracker&do=findComment&comment=2741458 https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/131295-a-bike-tracker-with-potential/?hl=tracker https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/99433-bicycle-tracking-device/?hl=tracker&do=findComment&comment=1342338 https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/91531-spylamp-bicycle-gps-tracker/?hl=tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share I think everyone has a tremendous amount of input that is not relevant. Most of the things discussed on the hub are not able to be discreetly mounted on a bike. One wants something that can be easily mounted and half the stuff mentioned here does not fit this bill. I am in the electronics industry and can tell you the only viable option here is the Sherlock which is at this stage R 2100.00 without shipping and taxes to SA. The Blacksheep is great if you can knock the starnut down far enough as the device is 110mm and should you use a taper steerer you may knock the starnut out the bottom. This poll is intended to see whether further R&D is warranted rather that finding chinky products that may or may not work and has zero support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 25, 2019 Share I think everyone has a tremendous amount of input that is not relevant. Most of the things discussed on the hub are not able to be discreetly mounted on a bike. One wants something that can be easily mounted and half the stuff mentioned here does not fit this bill. I am in the electronics industry and can tell you the only viable option here is the Sherlock which is at this stage R 2100.00 without shipping and taxes to SA. The Blacksheep is great if you can knock the starnut down far enough as the device is 110mm and should you use a taper steerer you may knock the starnut out the bottom. This poll is intended to see whether further R&D is warranted rather that finding chinky products that may or may not work and has zero support. sure, there's two ways to go about it. eithera)you go find something that works and since it is not widespread the thieves probably won't know about it yet.b)you wait for the dutch to solve the stolen bike problem, they have been working hard at it for much longer than us, still without a decent solution. My skeptic view. how is it possible that any internet connected device can be stolen and then have a resale option, ie. cellphones? no matter what gets done, the skommies will find a way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 25, 2019 Share three decent options if you ask mehttp://www.spybike.com/#spylamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikebloke Posted January 25, 2019 Share so lets suppose this invisible, difficult to remove ,amazingly long life battery, gps ,tracking indoors and out device existed ...............who is going to drive into Alex or diepsloot and start banging on doors to get this bike back (if you planning on leaving the client to do it you will not find many that are willing except the very stupid )...............if you think the police will you dont know anything about vehicle recovery or the police/law in SA and if you are going to contract private security recovery teams if will cease to be financially viable even to recover a 100k bicycle . this whole idea is basically pointless (and is just a placebo to make money) and if you did manage to make one 20 minutes after you started selling this mythical recovery chip every decent bike thief will know what and where to look to get it out (just like they do with cars ) sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIB Posted January 25, 2019 Share My skeptic view. how is it possible that any internet connected device can be stolen and then have a resale option, ie. cellphones? no matter what gets done, the skommies will find a way round Now when last did I hear that term!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share so lets suppose this invisible, difficult to remove ,amazingly long life battery, gps ,tracking indoors and out device existed ...............who is going to drive into Alex or diepsloot and start banging on doors to get this bike back (if you planning on leaving the client to do it you will not find many that are willing except the very stupid )...............if you think the police will you dont know anything about vehicle recovery or the police/law in SA and if you are going to contract private security recovery teams if will cease to be financially viable even to recover a 100k bicycle . this whole idea is basically pointless (and is just a placebo to make money) and if you did manage to make one 20 minutes after you started selling this mythical recovery chip every decent bike thief will know what and where to look to get it out (just like they do with cars ) sad but trueI don't disagree with some of what you have said here but, that's why the poll asks certain questions. I guess most people are happy that once a bike is stolen it's gone and it's ok. I bet that all the people that have had their bikes stolen don't feel the same. Being in the electronic industry, specifically GPS/Cellular and IoT, gives me some insight as to how and what could work. The problem with people is that everyone has loads of ideas and knows best until it happens to them. This poll was intended to get some broad information to use is determining what people would want and how it could best work. Imagine someone shot or stabbed you while robbing you of your bike and you could not only have a way to retrieve your bike but also to potentially find and apprehend these criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Now when last did I hear that term!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikebloke Posted January 25, 2019 Share I don't disagree with some of what you have said here but, that's why the poll asks certain questions. I guess most people are happy that once a bike is stolen it's gone and it's ok. I bet that all the people that have had their bikes stolen don't feel the same. Being in the electronic industry, specifically GPS/Cellular and IoT, gives me some insight as to how and what could work. The problem with people is that everyone has loads of ideas and knows best until it happens to them. This poll was intended to get some broad information to use is determining what people would want and how it could best work. Imagine someone shot or stabbed you while robbing you of your bike and you could not only have a way to retrieve your bike but also to potentially find and apprehend these criminals. as i said HOW will this tracked bike be retrieved ?its all very well making money out of bike owners selling a tracker but what happens next ?do the owners then risk being shot or stabbed trying to get the bike back ....? its a pointless device without a recovery solution and in a violent country like this there is no recovery solution thats viable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted January 25, 2019 Share who is going to drive into Alex or diepsloot and start banging on doors to get this bike back (if you planning on leaving the client to do it you will not find many that are willing except the very stupidSo true! Okay cool, that's where my bike is. Rather my bike than me! What now? Round up some friends with guns and go on a vigilante mission? I pay lots for insurance, let them sort it out. No need to risk a life insurance claim on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plentipotential Posted January 25, 2019 Share so lets suppose this invisible, difficult to remove ,amazingly long life battery, gps ,tracking indoors and out device existed ...............who is going to drive into Alex or diepsloot and start banging on doors to get this bike back (if you planning on leaving the client to do it you will not find many that are willing except the very stupid )...............if you think the police will you dont know anything about vehicle recovery or the police/law in SA and if you are going to contract private security recovery teams if will cease to be financially viable even to recover a 100k bicycle . this whole idea is basically pointless (and is just a placebo to make money) and if you did manage to make one 20 minutes after you started selling this mythical recovery chip every decent bike thief will know what and where to look to get it out (just like they do with cars ) sad but true I reluctantly liked your post. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share as i said HOW will this tracked bike be retrieved ?its all very well making money out of bike owners selling a tracker but what happens next ?do the owners then risk being shot or stabbed trying to get the bike back ....? its a pointless device without a recovery solution and in a violent country like this there is no recovery solution thats viable .This poll was not aimed at how recovery would work but rather in whether tracking and possible recovery is of interest and what people's thoughts are regarding to topic. This post was NOT called "How to recover you stolen bike" so why fixate on it. Before being so vehemently opposed to something it maybe take the time out to ponder why it was initiated other than assuming everything is about making a fast buck, that is ignorance. I do however appreciate the feedback and questions and they are substantiated and merit a separate discussion based on the results of this poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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