madbradd Posted April 14, 2020 Share I’ve always liked this English bike.I’d probably want it with a Di-hub internal gearing to have the option of gearing if needed, but not sure if it’s available with the single “dropout” mount.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200409/59ae3977780d5d89de3fbb2cd14e90aa.jpg Here’s the build cost from their website: Base frame price: $3200This includes:Complete custom geometry and designA custom blend of tubing to suit the design and intended purpose, ranging from Columbus Life to hand machined/formed 4130 cromolyFillet brazingSingle coat powder finish, with painted logos under clear.Limited lifetime warranty (for the original purchaser)Some 0ptions:Integrated steel seatmast (with custom adjustable cap): $600Integrated Enve carbon seatmast (with custom adjustable cap): $1200Internal gear cable routing: $100Internal routing for Di2: $200Internal rear brake cable routing: $100Custom wet paint by Colorworks: from $400Niner Eccentric BB: $200Split dropout for beltdrive: $150Custom stem: from $400Fork built to match: from $700ENVE carbon fork with frame: from $400English folding frame system: from $650Custom racks: from $350 https://www.englishcycles.com/pricelist/ That drivetrain outside the chainstay... just looks like the belt is going to fall off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 14, 2020 Share If the belt was going to fall off, the chain stay won’t make a difference - with the right tension, it should remain in place.This design allows the removal/installation of the belt without the problems of a fixed chain stay. edit: some info on the belt drive system WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO THE CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?Clean - No Lubrication means no greasy build up of dirt, keeping your hands, clothes, and children clean. Smooth – The Carbon Drive system eliminates the metal-to-metal contact of chains, delivering an unparalleled smoothness that you need to feel to believe.No Noise – The Carbon Drive belt is virtually silent in most riding conditions.Light Weight – the entire system, 2 sprockets and a belt, weighs less than just a typical chain.No Stretch – The Carbon Drive belt does not stretch over time like a chain. This means you don’t have to re-tension the belt, or replace the belt due to stretch. Self-Cleaning – The patented CenterTrack and MudPort profiles were designed specifically to shed mud, dirt, snow and other debris to meet the needs and environmental challenges of a bicycle.Life – Testing has shown the Carbon Drive belt to last more than twice the life of chains.Consistent Efficiency - the Carbon Drive belt provides consistent efficiency over the lifetime of the drive. In contrast, chain efficiency decreases with wear and dirt.WHAT ARE THE DRAWBACKS OF USING A CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?Because a belt cannot be broken and then reattached, the Carbon Drive System requires a belt-compatible frame. A belt also needs center distance adjustment for installation and proper tensioning. Methods include horizontally adjustable dropouts, eccentric bottom brackets, or eccentric hubs. Edited April 14, 2020 by Frosty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted April 14, 2020 Share Factor O2 Frame Dura Ace Di2Black Inc Wheels and cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted April 14, 2020 Share Bastion Frame must is starting to creep onto the wish list. T-Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbradd Posted April 14, 2020 Share If the belt was going to fall off, the chain stay won’t make a difference - with the right tension, it should remain in place. This design allows the removal/installation of the belt without the problems of a fixed chain stay. edit: some info on the belt drive system WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO THE CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?Clean - No Lubrication means no greasy build up of dirt, keeping your hands, clothes, and children clean. Smooth – The Carbon Drive system eliminates the metal-to-metal contact of chains, delivering an unparalleled smoothness that you need to feel to believe.No Noise – The Carbon Drive belt is virtually silent in most riding conditions.Light Weight – the entire system, 2 sprockets and a belt, weighs less than just a typical chain.No Stretch – The Carbon Drive belt does not stretch over time like a chain. This means you don’t have to re-tension the belt, or replace the belt due to stretch. Self-Cleaning – The patented CenterTrack and MudPort profiles were designed specifically to shed mud, dirt, snow and other debris to meet the needs and environmental challenges of a bicycle.Life – Testing has shown the Carbon Drive belt to last more than twice the life of chains.Consistent Efficiency - the Carbon Drive belt provides consistent efficiency over the lifetime of the drive. In contrast, chain efficiency decreases with wear and dirt.WHAT ARE THE DRAWBACKS OF USING A CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?Because a belt cannot be broken and then reattached, the Carbon Drive System requires a belt-compatible frame. A belt also needs center distance adjustment for installation and proper tensioning. Methods include horizontally adjustable dropouts, eccentric bottom brackets, or eccentric hubs. I know it wouldn't make a difference. It just looks like that. so used to seeing the frame on the outside, the other way round just makes it look strange (different). Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 14, 2020 Share That’s one reason why I like that frame... it’s not like an ordinary build. Grease_Monkey and madbradd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbradd Posted April 15, 2020 Share That’s one reason why I like that frame... it’s not like an ordinary build. Yeah. I get that completely. It's like the "righty" fork, the brake rotors on the right, the front brake mount, the front brake cable routing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted April 15, 2020 Share THIS!!! Oh Crikey.Yes, pretty much anything from Baum.I know very little about their bikes, but with those paint jobs they can ride like a penny farthing for all I care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted April 15, 2020 Share Factor O2 Frame Dura Ace Di2Black Inc Wheels and cockpit Isn't that you current bike ?Post a pic to remind us Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted April 15, 2020 Share Isn't that you current bike ?Post a pic to remind us This maybe ? splat, Kalahari Vegmot and T-Bob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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