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14 minutes ago, Danger Dassie said:

E motorbike/scooter. 👍

I'd love an E Motorbike, but as far as I understand there's very little available in this country. The ones that are available are insanely expensive. Do you know something I don't?

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1 hour ago, Razor1972 said:

I'd love an E Motorbike, but as far as I understand there's very little available in this country. The ones that are available are insanely expensive. Do you know something I don't?

Only know of Zero bikes, think there may be one other but I'm not sure. Considering the rising costs of transport I'd hope and imagine that the options start to open up.
What I do know is that I'd get an e-motorbike/scooter before looking at an EV car or recreational e-bike. 

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10 minutes ago, Danger Dassie said:

Only know of Zero bikes, think there may be one other but I'm not sure. Considering the rising costs of transport I'd hope and imagine that the options start to open up.
What I do know is that I'd get an e-motorbike/scooter before looking at an EV car or recreational e-bike. 

I just googled the Zero bikes and it seems they no longer exist. Their facebook page hasn't been active for a few years now and their website is dead. I wonder what happened to them.

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17 minutes ago, Danger Dassie said:

Only know of Zero bikes, think there may be one other but I'm not sure. Considering the rising costs of transport I'd hope and imagine that the options start to open up.
What I do know is that I'd get an e-motorbike/scooter before looking at an EV car or recreational e-bike. 

 

As much as I agree with your centiments ....

https://fasterwheeler.com/za/bikes/zero-fxs-zf3.6-modular-2023-4857

 

Just a tad expensive ....

 

More importantly .... Absolutely useless range ....

 

Posted (edited)

So much for that then .... 🙄 
I still one around where I live. I'm almost certain I heard of another brand starting up here.

Here: Parkhurst - https://etronelectric.com/models/

Google actually seems to throw up a few more local options.  With the above, pricing is 15-90k

https://amonet.co.za/product/1500w-2000w-motor-citycoco-electric-motorcycle-fat-tire-electric-scooter-city-coco/?attribute_color=White&sfdr_ptcid=22495_617_685720974&sfdr_hash=d2fff5d008500b949f9af18ccdc46ddb&gclid=CjwKCAjwkYGVBhArEiwA4sZLuAm0js4T5BbKMyEjtq5mSUJuitOnM5V07YYBpJkfYCGO2QFOmx_RIRoCfxYQAvD_BwE

https://www.kollter.co.za/ 

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Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, Danger Dassie said:

So much for that then .... 🙄 
I still one around where I live. I'm almost certain I heard of another brand starting up here.

Here: Parkhurst - https://etronelectric.com/models/

Google actually seems to throw up a few more local options.  With the above, pricing is 15-90k

https://amonet.co.za/product/1500w-2000w-motor-citycoco-electric-motorcycle-fat-tire-electric-scooter-city-coco/?attribute_color=White&sfdr_ptcid=22495_617_685720974&sfdr_hash=d2fff5d008500b949f9af18ccdc46ddb&gclid=CjwKCAjwkYGVBhArEiwA4sZLuAm0js4T5BbKMyEjtq5mSUJuitOnM5V07YYBpJkfYCGO2QFOmx_RIRoCfxYQAvD_BwE

https://www.kollter.co.za/ 

 

Ewizz has some nice commuter options ....

https://www.ewizz.co.za/product/volt-electric-scooter-2/#reviews

 

Click on the Model drop down .... see how the speed and range changes as you scroll through the models ....

 

Longer range = larger battery = higher cost ....

 

Town, low speed, commuter in the R50k range ....

 

Higher speed unit .... R130k range ....

 

 

 

May well make good financial sense .....

 

 

EDIT ... Spelling corrected ...

Edited by ChrisF
Posted
9 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

Eewiz has some nice commuter options ....

 

Longer range = larger battery = higher cost ....

 

Town, low speed, commuter in the R50k range ....

 

Higher speed unit .... R130k range ....

 

 

 

May well make good financial sense .....

I can't find anything online on Eewiz. Is that the right spelling?

Posted
6 minutes ago, Razor1972 said:

I can't find anything online on Eewiz. Is that the right spelling?

Sorry ... name corrected, and link added

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Any idea on what our government plans for driving licences for these .....

 

 

I have an A licence ... big bikes.  My wife has the A1, old scooter license ....

Posted

I regularly do 100km trips during working hours ....

 

In a few years one of these bikes may be my only option .....

 

 

Idealy with a quick swop out battery ..... buy an extra battery, charge it from pv.  Swop it out. Next day the other battery is charged ....

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I'd say it very much depends on what the aim is and exactly what you want to do with the bike.

If you don't travel highways, don't need to go fast, only want to use it for commuting and don't mind looking like you are delivering someone their pizza you can get something like a Bajaj CT125 or Hero Eco Deluxe. Both can be had for under R20k new and will give you a range of between 500 and 600km on a 10L fuel tank. It will still zip through traffic and will save you a heck of a lot of time and money. You won't look cool, you won't go fast but to beat traffic and the fuel price, nothing can compare.

Some smaller 2nd hand bikes that can be had are great for traffic in town but suck on the highway. They can double as weekend toys though. Like the mentioned CRF250/300. They won't blow your socks of in terms of power with 23/27hp respectively either but for a new rider it would probably be plenty, they look cool and make for great off-pavement toys. Can do highways but not great at it.

There are more powerful dirt bikes that make for even better toys but they are more dirt focused and in turn usually makes them less suited to higways/open road. Something like the WRF450 mentioned comes to mind but I suspect that will be too much of a handful for a new rider and for daily commuting the maintenance will kill you.

I currently use my DRZ400E for commuting when I do decide to go to the office. I only use it in town. It tops out at around 110km/h but does get there VERY quickly which makes it great in traffic. I have proper dirt tyres on it which makes me avoid wet tar like the plague :D

The Honda NC700/750 are built specifically for commuting and will give you 30km/l+ consumption. Services are not that cheap but if you can do simple maintenance yourself it makes it MUCH cheaper. It has manageable power, great onboard storage and has no problem doing longer distances on the highway.

There are cooler and larger bikes out there but maintenance becomes expensive and they can be a handful if you are not used to riding in traffic.

 

Not sure if any of that helps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted

Suzuki Gixxer 150cc. Brand new is less than R40k, you get the safety goodies you need like LED lights, larger wheels (than scooter) and disc brakes (v drum brakes on other small cc bikes) and the naked looks damn good imo. I dont think anything more is needed for commute.. if you're going to save petrol, might as well do so properly with a small displacement motorcycle. 

In re lane filtering, I do it in low second gear. Slow enough to react to most things that can happen ahead and slow enough that if something does happen it shouldnt be the end of me.. still wayyy faster than being stuck in traffic.

Got a white helmet and high viz jacket to help with visibility.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Heinrichgg said:

Suzuki Gixxer 150cc. Brand new is less than R40k, you get the safety goodies you need like LED lights, larger wheels (than scooter) and disc brakes (v drum brakes on other small cc bikes) and the naked looks damn good imo. I dont think anything more is needed for commute.. if you're going to save petrol, might as well do so properly with a small displacement motorcycle. 

In re lane filtering, I do it in low second gear. Slow enough to react to most things that can happen ahead and slow enough that if something does happen it shouldnt be the end of me.. still wayyy faster than being stuck in traffic.

Got a white helmet and high viz jacket to help with visibility.

 

Your comment on wheel size is VERY true.

 

 

Very nice option for the commuter market ....

 

Nice comparison

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://news.maxabout.com/bike-comparisons/suzuki-gixxer-sf-150-vs-gixxer-sf-250/&ved=2ahUKEwjFzbjRwJ_4AhXdSEEAHWaMBfEQFnoECD0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw2iPRbYQeyVj1luTzKSNdXB

 

 

For optimal fuel evonomy ... the 150

 

For those that do a bit of high way driving the 250 seems a good fit ....

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