so the tour de l'avenir(u23 TDF) is under way

[Racing Hart]

See this topic hasn't been started yet? It has started on saturday with a prologue on saturday and consists of 9stages. And we have 2 riders competing in the UCI academy team, they are Jacques Janse van Rensburg and Jaco Venter. They now hold 30th and 26th place on GC respectively, which is pretty well but expect Jacques to move up once they hit the mountains...

 

What bothers me although is that there isn't a national team?? As far as my knowledge we finally qaulified 1. And it was a big goal of csa to do this and send a team? But there is no team??why? And why is the reason for now team to be send kept so quiet? To me is utterly dissapointing, the guys could have really used in the prep for worlds and even move in to the top10 u23 countries.

[Racing Hart]

I'm prettu sure someone like barry austin or zoon cronje or Carinus lemmer should know as to why there is not a team.

[Doug]

what makes the world go round ..... "c"

[TNT1]

 

 

 

 

 

What bothers me although is that there isn't a national team?? As far as my knowledge we finally qaulified 1. And it was a big goal of csa to do this and send a team? But there is no team??why?

 

Already spent all our money sending a bunch of tosspots to Beijing to embarrass the country...?

 

(oh, and not just our cycling w@nkers at China, the entire debacle...)

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[Austin]

Ye, it is a pity. Thing is that two very strong candidates for the team had to do Tour of Britain( Jay and Bradley) which left the only one other guy really ready for U23 Euro competition along with Jacques and Jaco and that is Johann Rabie. With just Johann adding to quality, do you spend R150 000 on Aviner or use the UCI that currently has Jacques and Jaco there?

 

I for one really feel for Johann and would try some other resources to help out, but understand the option  taken at the time. Also would have loved for Jaqcues and them to have a complete team racing with them and for each other.

 

We can all just back the two guys trying their best out there for RSA.  Jacques finished in the front group in a semi mountain stage yesterday with Jaco working for him to real in a break that went up the road early in the stage. We need them to do well so to inspire and lift the effort from riders and support for riders. Go look at the time gap between  podium U23 at SA Champs and the rest and you will see we have so much work to do here.

 

I think the shift from interest on The Hub in RSA riders risking it and giving it stick in general has dwindled if you look at any response to performances posted of smaller overseas races. That is why I also do not really post here anymore as real passion, real tifossi, real cycling has move elsewhere( except for select few)... and really wished it did not as it is this understanding of the sport that would create a framework of support in RSA that would understand effort and passion needed to win Olympic medals and would help drive this and inspire this

[nochain]

Thanks Austin,

Please keep us up to date as to what is happening with them over there.

Not just the results but the story behind the results!!

 

 

 

 

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Ye' date=' it is a pity. Thing is that two very strong candidates for the team had to do Tour of Britain( Jay and Bradley) which left the only one other guy really ready for U23 Euro competition along with Jacques and Jaco and that is Johann Rabie. With just Johann adding to quality, do you spend R150 000 on Aviner or use the UCI that currently has Jacques and Jaco there?

 

I for one really feel for Johann and would try some other resources to help out, but understand the option  taken at the time. Also would have loved for Jaqcues and them to have a complete team racing with them and for each other.

 

We can all just back the two guys trying their best out there for RSA.  Jacques finished in the front group in a semi mountain stage yesterday with Jaco working for him to real in a break that went up the road early in the stage. We need them to do well so to inspire and lift the effort from riders and support for riders. Go look at the time gap between  podium U23 at SA Champs and the rest and you will see we have so much work to do here.

 

I think the shift from interest on The Hub in RSA riders risking it and giving it stick in general has dwindled if you look at any response to performances posted of smaller overseas races. That is why I also do not really post here anymore as real passion, real tifossi, real cycling has move elsewhere( except for select few)... and really wished it did not as it is this understanding of the sport that would create a framework of support in RSA that would understand effort and passion needed to win Olympic medals and would help drive this and inspire this

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Surely the way Christoff rode in World's view last year puts him in the same bracket? Or is he older than 23 now? And JL? too old as well?

 

[Austin]

Christoff rode Worlds View this year, it wasnt on last year. Super efforts there for sure that are worthy to note, but he is elite already. JL has Pro Team duties at the same time. At least JL will be at Worlds for SA! Austin2008-09-09 07:23:58

[TNT1]

 

Chrisoff rode Worlds View this year. Super efforts there for sure' date=' but he is elite already. JL has Pro Team duties at the same time. At least JL will be at Worlds for SA![/quote']

 

This year? Time flies hey.... ok, thanks. Pity, Christoff is a lot more talented than his results in this country show.

 

[RABUBI]

Thanks Austin' date='

Please keep us up to date as to what is happening with them over there.

Not just the results but the story behind the results!!

 

 

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Vir iemand met net een arm tik jy nie te bad nie.

[desprinter]

http://www.letour.fr/2008/TDA/LIVE/us/800/classement/index.html

Only 60 riders left, Jaco hanging in there....Still think SA should have sent a team?

[Austin]

Jacques fell ill on stage 5. been tryinh to ride through it. Even went in the break today, but legs not there after two days of illness. Jaco helping his other teammates, cause he is a bit out of it.

 

Those two are amoung the top 4 in RSA. When we have 8 on their level we can send a team and spend the R200 000.

[turtlek]

 

Chrisoff rode Worlds View this year. Super efforts there for sure' date=' but he is elite already. JL has Pro Team duties at the same time. At least JL will be at Worlds for SA![/quote']This year? Time flies hey.... ok, thanks. Pity, Christoff is a lot more talented than his results in this country show.

 

 

 

i couldnt agree more christoff is a great rider and i do not know anybody who trains harder or longer than Stof and the reason why he does not do as well as he should is because Sa races are too short for him