Tubeless vs tubes

[Contaminated Haggis]

Hi,

 

I have done quite a bit of reading on the whole mtb tubeless vs tubes subject. For every pro their is a con why I should or should not go tubeless. For example, weight is increased but rolling resistance is decreased. Immunity to punctures only goes as far as the your ability to avoid obstacles combined with the quality of your tires and what you inject into them (stan's, joe's etc). Mates of mine who ride tubeless still carry tubes in case of the inevitable.   

I have been riding tubes all along and my mtb experiences are not bad ones but I'm still intregued about tubeless tires. Does anyone have anything to add regarding their experiences with both. I can only speak from the tube point so far. My buddies just say tubeless is better, which isn't much to go on. 

[dirtrider]

1 : You mate is so clever ! Do you drive your car without a spare wheel ?

 

2 : Weight DECREASE

 

3 : Most sealants are equal

 

4 : There will be no need to try and avoid obsticales anymore once u Tless .

[AndreZA]

From my tube riding experience I'm sticking with it. With R150 Maxxis tyres and Dr Sludge tubes I'm over 3000km without having to replace a tube.

 

 

[Roons]

Agreed - I am sticking with tubes. Have not had a need to change to tubeless. A good quality slime-filled inner tube IMHO is a good as tubeless...

 

 

 

But go with whatever floats your boat - you will find each to his own.

[dirtrider]

There just are no pills .

[Willehond]

1 : You mate is so clever ! Do you drive your car without a spare wheel ?
2 : Weight DECREASE
3 : Most sealants are equal
4 : There will be no need to try and avoid obsticales anymore once u Tless .

 

OK, questions:

 

1. Does weight still decrease if you go UST and use sealant?

2. Why do the pro's on the Epic puncture so often with tubeless?

3. Will you still get lots of punctures if you run non-UST tyres with sealant conversions?

[scotty]

There just are no pills .

 

[NotSoBigBen]

I see Stan-yes-tubes coming ..............

[dirtrider]

1 : Yes

 

2 : imagine the puntures they will get without it . If it does not work why do they even bother ?

 

3 : No , it works just as well with non-ust tyres . But you increase your chances of sidewall cuts apparently .

 

 

 

For some it is about making a choice for me it is an absolute must have and I have even converted my wheelbarrow .

 

 

[Contaminated Haggis]

points taken dr, and well done for contradicting yourself

[Willehond]

2 : imagine the puntures they will get without it . If it does not work why do they even bother ?

 

My issue is why do they puncture so often?  I thought you didn't have to avoid obstacles anymore?  Are they running skinny tyres that are not cut proof or are they just unlucky.  It just doesn't add up.

[Contaminated Haggis]

, I'm with you Williehond. Every time I ask questions,  I eventually get the 'its just better' answer. I guess the proof of the pudding .... The big question is does one have the money to prove them right or wrong? 

[AndreZA]

' date=' I'm with you Williehond. Every time I ask questions,  I eventually get the 'its just better' answer. I guess the proof of the pudding .... The big question is does one have the money to prove them right or wrong? 

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YOu can't be prooven wrong with tubes, you can however with tubeless. Me with my yes-tubes had to offer up a spare tube to someone running tubeless.

 

 

[NotSoBigBen]

' date=' I'm with you Williehond. Every time I ask questions,  I eventually get the 'its just better' answer. I guess the proof of the pudding .... The big question is does one have the money to prove them right or wrong? 

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Doesn't have to be that expensive to try it .......

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=24545

 

I don't think that any of the real tjoopless pundits ever say you can convert and then ride with no tubby bag or rucksackless after that. In fact most guys I know who ride tjoopless still take a tjoop, puncture repair kit as well as tjoopless puncture repair kit (if you're Dirt-rider it would include a gas welder just in case ....)

[Contaminated Haggis]

true Mampara, most mtb's come with tube tires. I have been fortunate with them but as a cyclist am always looking for something shinier, lighter, better, faster etc. Just thought I would put it out there and see what feedback came in.

[TNOSE_E]

Mampara,  Do you use tyre liners with the filled tubes or not?