Cops and Your Licence Plate

[ChrisH]

 

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!  They should go look for some real criminals!

 

If your license plate is obscured then you are breaking the law and you are the real criminal.

 

Or would you like there to be a line drawn in the sand with the severity of offence that must be commited before law enforcement kicks in.

 

 

 

[fandacious]

 

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!  They should go look for some real criminals!

 

If your license plate is obscured then you are breaking the law and you are the real criminal.

 

Or would you like there to be a line drawn in the sand with the severity of offence that must be commited before law enforcement kicks in.

 

 

 

so you've never broken the speed limit? always put money in the parking meter? always paid your taxes (on time)?

 

[cyclenut]

my free punt to myself ...

 

If you want to a bike rack that complies

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=44795

[CycleJunkie]

I have done all of those things. And that makes me a lawbreaker.

 

Capn Slow had it right. A law is a law. If you break it you must be prepared for the consequences. Fine, prison etc.

 

If the law is a cr@p one, get it changed. Go to court and argue your case. All the mechanisms are there. If it is really cr@p, enough people will contest it and then it gets changed, amended whatever. Look at what happened here in Seffrica

 

 

 

[fiasm]

my free punt to myself ...

 

If you want to a bike rack that complies

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=44795

that's a good rack, cyclenut. we have the same laws here and my father (engineer) actually made something similar years ago to comply.

[ChrisH]

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!  They should go look for some real criminals!

If your license plate is obscured then you are breaking the law and you are the real criminal.

Or would you like there to be a line drawn in the sand with the severity of offence that must be commited before law enforcement kicks in.

so you've never broken the speed limit? always put money in the parking meter? always paid your taxes (on time)?

I'm the most law abiding person I know.

 

I always pay my taxes, always pay for parking and in fact always do my civic duty. If everyone else in our country did the same we would have far less anarchy.

 

I have been driving since 1978 and in that time I have had 2 fines totaling R130 rands. Both were for speeding, both were my fault and both I paid.

[jmaccelari]

 

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!  They should go look for some real criminals!

It's amazing how almost every self-righteous tosser that breaks the

law comes up with that one.

 

I got it last Thursday night (after Crofty Mclaughlin got hit off his bike by

a drunk driver on Wednesday). The woman was 5 times over the limit.

Should I have gone after "real" criminals?

 

I got it three times this morning while issuing Section 56s for driving

in the yellow line (the one guy nearly took out a cyclist AND a pedestrian!).

With cyclists getting killed while riding in the yellow lane, should I

have been going after "real" criminals?

 

The job of a traffic officer is to enforce the law without prejudice.

So that means nailing you for your plates, for riding in the shoulder or

drunken driving.

 

The problem is that we are used to lax enforcement and then get upset

when there is some enforcement and we happen to be the "victim"...

 

Hypocrisy, anyone?

 

[TNT1]

 

I'm the most law abiding person I know.

 

I always pay my taxes' date=' always pay for parking and in fact always do my civic duty. If everyone else in our country did the same we would have far less anarchy.

 

[/quote']

 

Me too. The only reason my number plate on my bike is sort of only half there, is that I fell off the other day and it broke. Honest.

 

[fandacious]

 

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!  They should go look for some real criminals!

It's amazing how almost every self-righteous tosser that breaks the

law comes up with that one.

 

I got it last Thursday night (after Crofty Mclaughlin got hit off his bike by

a drunk driver on Wednesday). The woman was 5 times over the limit.

Should I have gone after "real" criminals?

 

I got it three times this morning while issuing Section 56s for driving

in the yellow line (the one guy nearly took out a cyclist AND a pedestrian!).

With cyclists getting killed while riding in the yellow lane' date=' should I

have been going after "real" criminals?

 

The job of a traffic officer is to enforce the law without prejudice.

So that means nailing you for your plates, for riding in the shoulder or

drunken driving.

 

The problem is that we are used to lax enforcement and then get upset

when there is some enforcement and we happen to be the "victim"...

 

Hypocrisy, anyone?

[/quote']

 

i agree 100% with you.

 

but do the cops in the karoo towns put as much effort into impounding unroadworthy taxis over easter and xmas?

 

not bloody likely. its too much like hard work

 

[jmaccelari]

 

 

but do the cops in the karoo towns put as much effort into impounding unroadworthy taxis over easter and xmas?

 

not bloody likely. its too much like hard work

Sadly, I agree with you. I'd file that under the "lax" and "prejuducial"

enforcement we are used to...

 

[fandacious]

 

 

but do the cops in the karoo towns put as much effort into impounding unroadworthy taxis over easter and xmas?

 

not bloody likely. its too much like hard work

Sadly' date=' I agree with you. I'd file that under the "lax" and "prejuducial"

enforcement we are used to...

[/quote']

 

thats what gets most people upset - the fact that most traffic officials seem more interested in easy money than targeting real problems...

 

[AndreZA]

 

 

I think some of those small karoo towns make most their annual traffic fine budget on the argus weekeend just cause of number plates!? They should go look for some real criminals!

It's amazing how almost every self-righteous tosser that breaks thelaw comes up with that one.I got it last Thursday night (after Crofty Mclaughlin got hit off his bike bya drunk driver on Wednesday). The woman was 5 times over the limit.Should I have gone after "real" criminals?I got it three times this morning while issuing Section 56s for drivingin the yellow line (the one guy nearly took out a cyclist AND a pedestrian!).With cyclists getting killed while riding in the yellow lane' date=' should Ihave been going after "real" criminals?The job of a traffic officer is to enforce the law without prejudice.So that means nailing you for your plates, for riding in the shoulder ordrunken driving.The problem is that we are used to lax enforcement and then get upsetwhen there is some enforcement and we happen to be the "victim"...Hypocrisy, anyone?[/quote']i agree 100% with you. but do the cops in the karoo towns put as much effort into impounding unroadworthy taxis over easter and xmas?not bloody likely. its too much like hard work

 

 

 

and don't forget the smokers aswell. They also say the police should go after "real criminals" instead of policing restaurants and bars. But that's another can of worms.

 

 

 

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[Gman1834]

Next time you are in a road block without being checked, please take a look at what cars are being stopped and checked. you will notice that most are Taxi's and old cars.

 

 

 

 

 

[fandacious]

if you want to get technical, very few traffic offenses are criminal offenses.

 

you cant actually get a criminal record for not having a number plate, speeding, driving recklessly, etc

 

[jmaccelari]

 

if you want to get technical' date=' very few traffic offenses are criminal offenses.

 

you cant actually get a criminal record for not having a number plate, speeding, driving recklessly, etc

 

[/quote']

"Technically" they are ALL criminal offences!

 

Prosecution is in terms of the Criminal Procedures Act, typically Sects 56

or 341.

 

You get a criminal record for reckless driving, speeding above a certain

percentage of the speed limit, drunken driving, ...

 

I don't know how the criminal record bit works, as that's outside my

scope...

 

[Jaco Steyn]

Here is my home made device to keep the traffic officers at bay.