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OK so I am 35 years old really fit and an experienced rider. Max heart rate about 186. So on Sunday I raced the MTB race in Grayton. For the first hour I rode 80% of the time with a pulse rate over 175 and for long sections at a time I was over 180....I purposefully dont race with a HRM because I think I might scare myself - and I did!!

 

 

 

I can normally sustain 170 for a long period of time say 15 minutes - but sitting at 180 plus for more than 10 minutes at a stretch is really unusual.

 

 

 

Any ideas what is going on with my body?

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I'm in the same peramaters, and manage to take my hartrate over 200 for 2 - 3 mins. But don't worry to much about it. I agree with you on the heartrate monitor, it messes with your mind. Listen to your body.

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MJlovesMTB - heart rate monitor was working A-OK

 

 

 

Normally on a long climb of ten or more minutes I will ride at 170-175 and then hit max as I kick the last little bit. This ride though I was running at over 180 for long stretches which is a little unusual for me

 

 

 

Needless to say the legs went south halfway but I still managed a top ten finish smiley1.gif

 

 

 

There were a couple of very attractive ladies Dirtbreath - but I was so delirious after the first few km I really did no notice much smiley4.gif

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If you suspect there is trouble - go for a stress EKG and be sure. You may have been carrying a flu virus or something too. If it doesn't return to normal I would go see for an EKG.

 

You only have one ticker...

 

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My max heart rate is 187. My Threshold rate is 174

 

Recently I sat several times in a race above 180bpm over a period of 8 minutes. In another race I hit 200bpm during a very intense spurt. Twice after that in the same race I hit 190bpm.I've put it all down to adrenaline.

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My max is 193. I was once running along the Sea Point promenade and a wave broke over me .. I sprinted to get out of the way and my HR shot up from 170 to 220 for 30 secs :) Adrenaline I think.

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My max heart rate is 187. My Threshold rate is 174

 

Recently I sat several times in a race above 180bpm over a period of 8 minutes. In another race I hit 200bpm during a very intense spurt. Twice after that in the same race I hit 190bpm.I've put it all down to adrenaline.

If you hit 200, your max is 200. You can't go above your maximum. Think about it...
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The max I set for myself is the max I reach during absolutely intense efforts. I can reach this max occasionally. The other 'max', where my heart rate spikes, that is pure adrenaline, and not something I can ever reach during intense effort.

 

My mate is a solid 184max. Or so he thought he was, until he was chased up a hill by a pair of mad dogs. 184 seemed tame compared to what he reached.

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Why are you guys scared of what you HR reaches?

 

Have you EVER read about an athlete dying because his HR was higher than a certain number of a certain period of time?

 

MTB riding will achieve higher HR because more muscles are being used (upper body) than in road riding, just like maxHR running is usually higher than maxHR cycling.
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My max is 203. I often ride reach the 190's, normally when I'm climbing hills. I have to agree with bruce, I haven't heard of anyone whose heart has exploded as a result of increased HR... I'd be more worried if it was slowing down excessively Wink

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Why are you guys scared of what you HR reaches?

 

Have you EVER read about an athlete dying because his HR was higher than a certain number of a certain period of time?

 

MTB riding will achieve higher HR because more muscles are being used (upper body) than in road riding' date=' just like maxHR running is usually higher than maxHR cycling.
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Why would that be, Bruce? When running you are limited by the pain (from impact) that your body can take, so it is more difficult (and more painful) to sustain a high intensity.  With cycling, there is practically no impact so your only limiter is your cardio vascular system.  The fitter you are then, the higher an average heart rate you will be able to sustain.  From my own experience, al the above is true, I just wonder what would lead to any level of athlete being able to sustain a higher max HR in running than cycling?

 

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Why are you guys scared of what you HR reaches?

 

Have you EVER read about an athlete dying because his HR was higher than a certain number of a certain period of time?

 

MTB riding will achieve higher HR because more muscles are being used (upper body) than in road riding' date=' just like maxHR running is usually higher than maxHR cycling.
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Why would that be, Bruce? When running you are limited by the pain (from impact) that your body can take, so it is more difficult (and more painful) to sustain a high intensity.  With cycling, there is practically no impact so your only limiter is your cardio vascular system.  The fitter you are then, the higher an average heart rate you will be able to sustain.  From my own experience, al the above is true, I just wonder what would lead to any level of athlete being able to sustain a higher max HR in running than cycling?

 

With running there is no place to hide. You cannot stop pedalling down a hill, you cannot hide in a bunch....

 

The more you train the lower your heart rate will become to sustain a given level of exertion.

 

My last road race (16/6 - Fountains - 106) my HRmax was 169, HRavg 147 (Garmin)

My last MTB race (15/2 Embarrassed - Babbas - 35) my HRmax was 183, HRavg 170 (Polar)

My last 8km run (16/5 - Club 8km timetrial) my HRmax was 173, HRavg 161(Garmin)

 

Note:

1. I only started training 2 weeks before the MTB race after an injury

2. I do very little cycling, but run on avg 3x a week

 

What I've noticed as well is that the Garmin gives a smoother HR graph than the Polar....Confused

 

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Why are you guys scared of what you HR reaches?

 

Have you EVER read about an athlete dying because his HR was higher than a certain number of a certain period of time?

 

MTB riding will achieve higher HR because more muscles are being used (upper body) than in road riding' date=' just like maxHR running is usually higher than maxHR cycling.
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Why would that be, Bruce? When running you are limited by the pain (from impact) that your body can take, so it is more difficult (and more painful) to sustain a high intensity.  With cycling, there is practically no impact so your only limiter is your cardio vascular system.  The fitter you are then, the higher an average heart rate you will be able to sustain.  From my own experience, al the above is true, I just wonder what would lead to any level of athlete being able to sustain a higher max HR in running than cycling?

It's just that a greater demand is placed on the heart in running than in Cycling - more muscles needing oxygen.

 

 

But the whole HRmax equation is pretty flawed:

 

 

RPE is a much better indicator - if it feels hard, it is hard!

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