Heart Rate

[DRIVETRAIN]

My resting H/R is 32bpm - going uphill I reach say 140bpm also considering if I push it then I'll get 160bpm...........I weigh 76kg's

 

My friends resting H/R is around 50bpm...going uphill he maxes out just over 180bpm and at times straights its the same....he weighs: 86kg's

 

I can't make a comparison - I climb more, train harder and I ride in front for 95% of our rides pulling him.

 

"DT"

[Bos]

My resting H/R is 32bpm - going uphill I reach say 140bpm also considering if I push it then I'll get 160bpm...........I weigh 76kg's

 

My friends resting H/R is around 50bpm...going uphill he maxes out just over 180bpm and at times straights its the same....he weighs: 86kg's

 

I can't make a comparison - I climb more' date=' train harder and I ride in front for 95% of our rides pulling him.

 

"DT"

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How old are you?

[DRIVETRAIN]

Sorry - I'm 40 and he is 41

 

"DT "

[Dun Man]

Bos, Have you taken your mtb up to the mast at Tokai, nou daai is 'n bult! Had a long conversation with one of those scientist blokes at the Sport Science institute on studies done worldwide on interval sessions vs tempo long rides. Almost all the studies indicate that the best gains both for endurance and Power output comes from interval sessions. The problem is that you need to know pretty accurately where your specific Lactate threshold and Vo2 Max is. This can only be determined with blood samples while you'r on a indoor machine! They do this for you at Newlands for around R500. Interestingly he also told me that the Swedish cross country ski team now exclusively do interval sessions and no more long distance endurance! Also biggest issue is rest after such a session or all the effort is wasted. Only problem also is that it mostly is do do these! I rather enjoy the leasurely rides as well!! 

[Bos]

Bos' date=' Have you taken your mtb up to the mast at Tokai, nou daai is 'n bult! Had a long conversation with one of those scientist blokes at the Sport Science institute on studies done worldwide on interval sessions vs tempo long rides. Almost all the studies indicate that the best gains both for endurance and Power output comes from interval sessions. The problem is that you need to know pretty accurately where your specific Lactate threshold and Vo2 Max is. This can only be determined with blood samples while you'r on a indoor machine! They do this for you at Newlands for around R500. Interestingly he also told me that the Swedish cross country ski team now exclusively do interval sessions and no more long distance endurance! Also biggest issue is rest after such a session or all the effort is wasted. Only problem also is that it mostly is do do these! I rather enjoy the leasurely rides as well!! [/quote']

 

Yes, ive done the Mast plenty.. also did a TT from the paygate, I want to take my lighter HT up there, My 13kg santacruise went up in 1:03.. so close. I would love to beat the hour.

What you say Is true. the gains from longer mixed rides are so few for the amount of time you put in.

For me, Im doing those hill repeats and Vo2 max rides during the week when I have less time and on weekends I try do one long 3 hour plus ride, cause your body still have to be use to spending that time in the saddle otherwise its Your body is like WTF is this guy doing.. kind of, Lets cramp up he is goign to kill us..

 

But Im with you 100%. Intervalls and Hillclimb reps are the first steps you should take to raise your game..Ive been training  like this sinceend June and Ive left all of my mates behind. It makes strong. and Long flatter hills are great lactic acid threshold excersize. INTENSITY!

 

[Dun Man]

Bos' date=' Have you taken your mtb up to the mast at Tokai, nou daai is 'n bult! Had a long conversation with one of those scientist blokes at the Sport Science institute on studies done worldwide on interval sessions vs tempo long rides. Almost all the studies indicate that the best gains both for endurance and Power output comes from interval sessions. The problem is that you need to know pretty accurately where your specific Lactate threshold and Vo2 Max is. This can only be determined with blood samples while you'r on a indoor machine! They do this for you at Newlands for around R500. Interestingly he also told me that the Swedish cross country ski team now exclusively do interval sessions and no more long distance endurance! Also biggest issue is rest after such a session or all the effort is wasted. Only problem also is that it mostly is do do these! I rather enjoy the leasurely rides as well!! [/quote']

 

Yes, ive done the Mast plenty.. also did a TT from the paygate, I want to take my lighter HT up there, My 13kg santacruise went up in 1:03.. so close. I would love to beat the hour.

What you say Is true. the gains from longer mixed rides are so few for the amount of time you put in.

For me, Im doing those hill repeats and Vo2 max rides during the week when I have less time and on weekends I try do one long 3 hour plus ride, cause your body still have to be use to spending that time in the saddle otherwise its Your body is like WTF is this guy doing.. kind of, Lets cramp up he is goign to kill us..

 

But Im with you 100%. Intervalls and Hillclimb reps are the first steps you should take to raise your game..Ive been training  like this sinceend June and Ive left all of my mates behind. It makes strong. and Long flatter hills are great lactic acid threshold excersize. INTENSITY!

 

Ha Ha Exactly what happened to me at K2C, felt great for the first 75km and kept passing people and then the cramping started! From there it was nursing the pins all the way with hordes of okes passing me with me shouting, cramp block? cramp block? They looked at me with blank stares,surely thinking "what a chop! Will never ride a long ride again with those bl;errie pills! Enjoy your training!

[Slowbee]

do you just make an appointment at the sports science institiure for the VO2 stuff ?

 

 

Slowbee2009-09-29 09:42:12