dylankeyter Posted August 4, 2007 Share i find that training on an indoor trainer is useless, although I can do a 2hour session, it doesnt seem to improve my cycling fitness that much. when im on the indoor trainer i struggle to get my heart rate over 180, but on the road i average 170bpm... what is the explanation for this? I suppose there are so many more elements when you are on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windbreaker Posted August 4, 2007 Share What you are finding is one of the biggest arguments for power training as opposed to hr training. But why are you saying that it is useless training? My bet is that you just are not working as hard as you do on the road even though it feels as tough. I've got a power tap and the numbers don't lie. A 2x20min session on the trainer is MUCH more difficult for me than a 2x20min session on the road. So if I didn't have a PT and used my perceived exertion level, the actual effort & corresponding HR would drop (assuming that I had as much cooling as on the road). Indoor trainers can be very valuable - especially if you don't have lots of time to train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylankeyter Posted August 4, 2007 Share yea that sounds correct, i cant afford a power trainer which is much more accurate i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted August 4, 2007 Share Do intervals on the indoor trainer lto improve fitness. It is also much less boring than endurance riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boeing Posted August 4, 2007 Share The saying goes something like this: 1 hour on the rollers is 2 hours on the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted August 4, 2007 Share IDT works well. Unlike when riding on the road you have to pedal all the time on the IDT, so logic then has it that 1 hour on the IDT would be worth more than 1 hour on the road. If you don't like the IDT get a set of rollers, rollers help you with balance and teach you to ride in a straight line and help with maintaining concentration whilst giving you a good workout. No time to get bored on rollers unless you want to see your ass. Those near falls will certainly get your heart rate up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windbreaker Posted August 4, 2007 Share Hey I don't need rollers to fall indoors, I once fell off my trainer. It wasn't level (tiled floor) and the vibration loosened the clamp screw. Stood up to start a sprint and next thing I'm on my arse with a very sore elbow & a buggered wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boeing Posted August 4, 2007 Share Ha Ha! It sucks at the time but at least you can have a chuckle about it afterwards! Rollers alos help with the fluidity of pedalling! Try doing one minute single legs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianni Posted August 4, 2007 Share IDT training needs to be specific. Even if you know you have to do 1hr recovery ride, just knowing that is the goal for the workout makes it easier. Well, for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanieFiets Posted August 6, 2007 Share I have no problem with Rollers. IDT is crap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylankeyter Posted August 6, 2007 Share yes idt cant be good for bike frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doepie Posted August 6, 2007 Share I hate riding in the cold so I try and workout on the IDT.I find that if you work to a specific program you dont get bored so quick but if I just spin I am bored within 20 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylankeyter Posted August 6, 2007 Share yes that is true. i think rollers are more natural... haha. there is no strain on the bike like on an idt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted August 7, 2007 Share i find that training on an indoor trainer is useless' date=' although I can do a 2hour session, it doesnt seem to improve my cycling fitness that much. when im on the indoor trainer i struggle to get my heart rate over 180, but on the road i average 170bpm... what is the explanation for this? I suppose there are so many more elements when you are on the road. [/quote'] IDT Useless? Ja right tell that to the hordes around the world who dont have 360 days sunshine a year. Your lower HR could be due to the IDT sessions being static (bike is fixed and your only effort is in turning the pedals), whereas the road is more dynamic, you have to balance, contend with air resistance ect... TBH i find it better to do specific quality sessions on the IDT than on the road, purely because you can concentate on the objective without being interupted by traffic, traffic lights / stop streets, speed cameras ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianni Posted August 7, 2007 Share i find that training on an indoor trainer is useless' date=' although I can do a 2hour session, it doesnt seem to improve my cycling fitness that much. when im on the indoor trainer i struggle to get my heart rate over 180, but on the road i average 170bpm... what is the explanation for this? I suppose there are so many more elements when you are on the road. [/quote'] IDT Useless? Ja right tell that to the hordes around the world who dont have 360 days sunshine a year. Your lower HR could be due to the IDT sessions being static (bike is fixed and your only effort is in turning the pedals), whereas the road is more dynamic, you have to balance, contend with air resistance ect... TBH i find it better to do specific quality sessions on the IDT than on the road, purely because you can concentate on the objective without being interupted by traffic, traffic lights / stop streets, speed cameras ect... couldn't have said it better myself....I can feel the dark skies creeping closer every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted August 8, 2007 Share i find that training on an indoor trainer is useless' date=' although I can do a 2hour session, it doesnt seem to improve my cycling fitness that much. when im on the indoor trainer i struggle to get my heart rate over 180, but on the road i average 170bpm... what is the explanation for this? I suppose there are so many more elements when you are on the road. [/quote'] IDT Useless? Ja right tell that to the hordes around the world who dont have 360 days sunshine a year. Your lower HR could be due to the IDT sessions being static (bike is fixed and your only effort is in turning the pedals), whereas the road is more dynamic, you have to balance, contend with air resistance ect... TBH i find it better to do specific quality sessions on the IDT than on the road, purely because you can concentate on the objective without being interupted by traffic, traffic lights / stop streets, speed cameras ect... couldn't have said it better myself....I can feel the dark skies creeping closer every day! Lekker hey For the month July (supposed to be mid summer hm???) we had 17 days of rain. So far August seems to be going the same fargen route SwissVan2007-08-08 10:27:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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