Raleigh bashing

[The_Break]

WHAT I have one on my arm as well...... No noooo noooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........ (H runs away screaming!!!!!!!)

 

See, that is another of the symptoms. Confusion.

 

The other one is on your sack.

[Marlon]

I don't have a raleigh, but I also don't have an expensive snobstruct either. I have a R1k dunlop which would probably get more frowns from aforementioned than raleigh's would get. It's just that I don't care what world they would live in, to think that I give a sh** what they think

 

The raleigh i did have, was my "bmw style" one in primary school, and I remember it taking a beating for years, including multiple times being left in the pool overnight

 

I think people should buy what they can afford, and use what they are happy with, because what "suurtiete" (i like that ) think makes zero difference.

[chris_w_65]

Does Silverback fall in the same category as Raleigh? I passed quite a few top Italian road bikes on my Silverback MTB today and I have only been cycling for 10 weeks

[Starvin' Marvin]

Chris the cappacino brigade will always run us mere mortals down on our silverbacks and raleighs. But do like the penguins from madagascar when you pass them, smile and wave.

[Carbon_Kooi]

Should've seen the grin on a number of Dogma owners as I dropped them on the road today, with my old alu Raleigh.

[Guest Big H]

Should've seen the grin on a number of Dogma owners as I dropped them on the road today, with my old alu Raleigh.

 

[Starvin' Marvin]

Passed a few pinarellos in the shova. Think you mistaked a grimace for a grin.

[WorcesterWheelers]

Raleigh is a people's bike. I bike for everyone, or at least one that more people can afford. Like all bikes that are starting out there were a number of design and mnufacturing flaws that were ironed out. So yes raligh is good, so are Dahitsu motorcars, and Vuka motorbikes. and that is where the problem is. The average roadie (which excludes BigH and dirt rider immediately) does not want to be seen near such a accessible product. Roadies want to buy from bikeshops run by people that own porsche's and hardly dangerous's. They want to cycle stuff endorsed by donald duck, and riden by chicken. It is part of the culture. Why drink ricoffee when only nescafe will do? It is not about being good, but rather about looking good.

 

On the other hand each to his own, I would also prefer to ride a bike that weighs in under 9 kgs, which few raleighs even with all the bling did.

 

Funny thing, the owner of PROBIKE, distributor of RALEIGH bikes, happens to be the proud owner of a PORSCHE 911.

[Genesis]

Hold on a second. Please tell me where I bashed someones bike in this thread????? With a quotation.

 

You are missunderstanding my applause!

 

I didnt say you bashed someones bike. Infact I havent said a thing the whole thread. All I did was applause a comment or post. I liked what was said and agreed with it.

Bike bashing - no. Product bashing - maybe.

 

[Headshot]

My 5 year old Raliegh RDS frame has never given me a moments hassle - it came with full XT and Fox for about half (I got it on special) of what a Scott Spark carbon frame alone costs today. You brandsluts sound like a bunch of teenagers comparing cell phones or takkie brands. It aint about the bike - you train right could ride a sub 3 Argus on a hi tensile downtube shifting buckle wheeled monster that cost R200. I dare ya.

[Shebeen]

Does Silverback fall in the same category as Raleigh? I passed quite a few top Italian road bikes on my Silverback MTB today and I have only been cycling for 10 weeks

nope, Silverbacks have been cool from the word go. Thought their marketing strategy properly and positioned it as a hip brand - price was decent and were not afraid to use some belters in their product catalogues.

 

raleigh had the best riders in the country winning races left right and centre, but tarnished the image by selling models at the hypermarket under the same name. rule #1 - don't do that.

 

would actually be interesting to see how much market share raleigh have lost by not sponsoring teams in 2010(ie. it'll prove how much the herd mentality influences buyers choice)

[chris_w_65]

nope, Silverbacks have been cool from the word go. Thought their marketing strategy properly and positioned it as a hip brand - price was decent and were not afraid to use some belters in their product catalogues.

 

 

[chris_w_65]

 

raleigh had the best riders in the country winning races left right and centre, but tarnished the image by selling models at the hypermarket under the same name. rule #1 - don't do that.

 

 

That is true, I bought 20" Raleighs from Game for my kids for around R700.00 each. They were unrideable until I did some work on tightening things up and adjusting brakes. You can never get these crap bikes right

 

It is foolish to sell crap

[The_Break]

You are missunderstanding my applause!

 

I didnt say you bashed someones bike. Infact I havent said a thing the whole thread. All I did was applause a comment or post. I liked what was said and agreed with it.

Bike bashing - no. Product bashing - maybe.

 

 

No cool then. I am not bashing the product. I am just making the distinction between what is truly a top brand and what in my opinion is not.

 

It is like seeing a Formula One car up close and personal. Then you climb inside and take it for a drive. It is something amazing. To then liken a normal passenger vehicle, even be it a very, very nice passenger vehicle to the Formula 1 car is not right. It may be an amazing car, but to liken it to an amazingly engineering technology leading machine does injustice to the word Top Brand.

 

It is ike comparing the owners Porsche to Golf 5. Both designed and belonging to the Porsche/VW group, similar to the development partners Probike uses. He himself would not agree that a Golf 5 falls into the same class as his Porche. And like Top Gear presenters rate vehicles they have driven, why cant some of us have similar opinions on bikes we have ridden.

[GuyP]

My 5 year old Raliegh RDS frame has never given me a moments hassle - it came with full XT and Fox for about half (I got it on special) of what a Scott Spark carbon frame alone costs today. You brandsluts sound like a bunch of teenagers comparing cell phones or takkie brands. It aint about the bike - you train right could ride a sub 3 Argus on a hi tensile downtube shifting buckle wheeled monster that cost R200. I dare ya.

 

Dead right Headshot!

 

I rode my 20 year old steel bike with downshifters (but, errmmm, with trued wheels ), and did 94.7 in 2h47. Then, after saving some legs on that 1st lap, did the 2nd lap straight thereafter in about 3:30, all on good ol' steel! Fair enough times for a clunker, at least to me!

 

What surprised me starting at the back for the 2nd lap was how much really, really beautiful premium kit there is there, and at the same time, some kit that I'm sure was barely mobile and that must have weighed more than the rider! Oh well, I don't hold it against them that cyclists buy whatever they want, but when those same pretentious tjops look down on my clunker, Raleigh or whatever it is I'm riding on the day, I suggest you rather leave your podium placing to do the talking! Indeed, I'm more impressed by the performance of the brave guys and girls at the back on those incredible clunkers than those poseurs who couldn't do any better than them time-wise!

[Shebeen]

So ...... see my post in bold above..... It seems you ride four Giants, made right next door of the factory also owned by Giant that makes Raleigh's

if you follow that line of think then about 75% of us ride Giants. But there is a huge range from the kakkest to the bestest in the that selection.