jmaccelari Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I see that rock climbers are also being screwed by crime. I noted the guys reference to cyclists being hit by crime: http://news.iafrica.com/sa/699086.html We're not safe at home, we're not safe on the roads, we're not safe on the single tracks, now we're not safe up a bloody cliff face. I wonder when the ANC is going to wake up and start doing something..?
Vetseun Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 My friend the ANC is never going to do something. The people who can do something are so busy milking the country that there is no time for us fools that are being killed off. But wait,,,, deep breath before I get going .........I see that rock climbers are also being screwed by crime. I noted the guys reference to cyclists being hit by crime: http://news.iafrica.com/sa/699086.html We're not safe at home, we're not safe on the roads, we're not safe on the single tracks, now we're not safe up a bloody cliff face. I wonder when the ANC is going to wake up and start doing something..?
sias Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 En dis nie die eerste keer dat dit by daardie spesifieke plek gebeur nie! Stel 'n lokval, vang die f.kkers en breek alles in hulle liggame, van bo tot onder en laat hulle daar lê en vrek as 'n waarskuwing vir die res van die mak moere...
Vetseun Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Dankie vir die pragtige woorde Sias ek stem saam met jou op die een. En dis nie die eerste keer dat dit by daardie spesifieke plek gebeur nie! Stel 'n lokval, vang die f.kkers en breek alles in hulle liggame, van bo tot onder en laat hulle daar lê en vrek as 'n waarskuwing vir die res van die mak moere...
Guest Iron Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I was a climber for many years and we started experiencing these attacks back then from Watervalbooven all the way to places like Chos as mentioned.Stopped because of this , had some friends that were held up while on the rock and threatened to have their ropes cut. also had some one attacked in there tent and stabbed.Its very sad that all the sports i enjoy are targets for these oxygen thieves.
MTB_Roadie Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 En dis nie die eerste keer dat dit by daardie spesifieke plek gebeur nie! Stel 'n lokval, vang die f.kkers en breek alles in hulle liggame, van bo tot onder en laat hulle daar lê en vrek as 'n waarskuwing vir die res van die mak moere... VIVA AFRICA!! Dink ons moet begin die attackers attack vir n verandering sodat hulle bang kan word vir die fietsryers....
Kranswurm Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I see that rock climbers are also being screwed by crime. I noted the guys reference to cyclists being hit by crime: http://news.iafrica.com/sa/699086.html We're not safe at home, we're not safe on the roads, we're not safe on the single tracks, now we're not safe up a bloody cliff face. I wonder when the ANC is going to wake up and start doing something..? Must be driving you up the bloody wall !
jmaccelari Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Must be driving you up the bloody wall !That's not funny. It isn't safe up there, either...
Kranswurm Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 That's not funny. It isn't safe up there, either... He he.......sorrie
jmaccelari Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 En dis nie die eerste keer dat dit by daardie spesifieke plek gebeur nie! Stel 'n lokval, vang die f.kkers en breek alles in hulle liggame, van bo tot onder en laat hulle daar lê en vrek as 'n waarskuwing vir die res van die mak moere...Some things just can't be put better in any other language...
Guest Iron Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Must be driving you up the bloody wall !Dude i see your humor but hell we sitting duck ups there.
Kranswurm Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Dude i see your humor but hell we sitting duck ups there. Can't quite visualise the bounder abseiling down to yor pozzie but I get yor driftPerhaps you can climb with more friends........ Edited January 18, 2011 by Kranswurm
Bobbo_SA Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Was always one of my favorite sports, still have all my gear but dont get to use it because of things like this, seriously a sad time when we have some of the best climbing spots but are not able to take advantage of them. Does not matter if you go to Boven, Melville,Harties, Drakensburg, everywhere is experiencing these same issues.
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I was a climber for many years and we started experiencing these attacks back then from Watervalbooven all the way to places like Chos as mentioned.Stopped because of this , had some friends that were held up while on the rock and threatened to have their ropes cut. also had some one attacked in there tent and stabbed.Its very sad that all the sports i enjoy are targets for these oxygen thieves.Iron, remember Baviaanspoort? This was an awesome crag and we grew up climbing there. One day it started, these guys held up one group, and from there it just decayed. Nobody has been back there since. My routes have all rotted away I'm sure. Waterval Boven was especially bad at one point, but through careful police work and help from the community, it was traced back to one group. Thats the sad part. The crime is done by a small group, but the fear is widespread. I used to take my girlfriend to Chosspile all the time but after reading about the crime, I decided to stop going there. Same with the Secret Garden. It was set to be the new face of Gauteng bouldering, until some cretin raped an innocent student there. Needless to say, people stopped going there. What can we do about it? I've thought so much about it, and there are no answers. Violence leads to violence. If you take tazers, the guys will bring guns. Bring your gun, the guys will shoot you with theirs (stolen from some other hapless outdoorsman). The real solution must come from government in the form of serious consequences for crimes. Kill someone, death penalty. Stab someone, life behind bars. I don't for one second believe that the criminals would stop their **** if there were 'jobs for all'. The news article clearly shows the hate these people have in them. Why would you want to cut the guy's head off? It only points to one thing. For me personally, I moved to the Cape a few years back. Crime is very small here. There still is crime though, and a lot of my friends have been victims of it. I just found that my outdoor life was becoming smaller and smaller the more I stayed in Gauteng. Let's face it, for a lot of us it's why we choose to live in SA. It's a beautiful land, and I love the people here. It will break my heart to leave for supposed 'greener' pastures, especially with the World's economy crashing. Things will not be so rosy up north in a few years. Only suggestion I guess is to form clubs, go outdoors in large groups, and possibly have armed guards in certain areas.
Guest Iron Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Can't quite visualise the bounder abseiling down to yor pozzie but I get yor driftPerhaps you can climb with more friends........ Let me clear it up, "sport" climbing you use a thing called a quick draw and place them on the rock into a prebolted "eyebolt" when you get to the top you thread your rope through the " eyebolts" that are there and your parntner belays you back down and you retreif your quick draws as you go down . the people in question whatch this and at this point hold your partner at knife point as not to let you down and threatened to cut the rope to you. its f%%%%ing scary !!
Mojoman Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Ja, more great news for us Gautengers! Its great being in my line of work (tourism) and reading about this and people almost being raped while out cycling etc. Government should stop wasting money, our money as taxpayers, (as if they could stop anyway) and sort this country out.I have a friend coming over to RSA in Oct, she left 15 years ago and has not been back since, I can't wait to see her face when I show her around the 'New' South Africa...what an embaressment....I just hope she has not become one of those soft liberal 'but apartheid caused all of this' people...!
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