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The hypocrisy of vegans #3. Consume products that are the result of human exploitation in the sweat shops of Asia and China and excuse themselves by thinking veganism is only about not eating meat, so buying cheap T-shirts is okay . Humans are animals too!

The myth of the century.

The hypocrisy of vegans #2. They ride leather saddles and their BMW’s have leather seats.

The hypocrisy of vegans #1. You can go to any restaurant these days and they have vegan dishes available typically identified by the Ⓥ symbol. So these dumb @ss vegans happily order the Ⓥ dish because, you know, they want to be kind to animals and all that moral and ethical bull cr@p. Whoa, stop the bus! What the fluck are you doing in a restaurant that is a purveyor of animal flesh in the first place? Anyone ordering a vegan dish is inadvertently supporting an establishment that is based on the meat trade. If vegans had any true conviction in their beliefs then there would not be one restaurant in the entire world that would offer a vegan dish alongside their meat dishes as this would be an utter waste of time as true vegans would not ever enter such an establishment.

This disturbs me greatly is that you are absolutely trivializing the act of rape and murder by measuring it against the morality of eating a hamburger. I am gobsmacked! Your gross insensitivity to victims of violent crime in reprehensible. I am sure that any rape victim will take extreme offense to your comparison. On the flip side surely there are many meat eaters out there that will also take offense to their moral standards being likened to that of a rapist and murderer. You have devalued human life to be that of a pig or chicken. WTF bra? Your moral compass is spinning way out of control. Billions of people globally have absolutely no association between eating meat and human morality. I cannot think of any developed civilization that is vegan, it simply does not exist. In fact the number of vegans globally as a percentage of the world population is so small as to be inconsequential. So it appears to me that your vegan agenda is moving worryingly close to being on the fringe and fanatical. I have said it before that I equate vegans to that of lunatic religious fundamentalists. Such zeal and fervour and your completely warped sense of morality is so far off-centre that your mental well-being should be of concern to others.

Nice words of encouragement for you Cois, vasbyt, stay strong and you will endure these tough times and come out the other side healed.

Like I said, we are at the top of the food chain, stuff dies in order for us to eat, I have absolutely zero ethical or moral concerns around this. I am human and exploitation is our nature. Humans exploit humans, humans exploit animals, humans exploit the earth itself. It is our evolution, our progress and our advancement, it is our success as a species! Ultimately, one day, it will also be our demise as a species.

Got the article from a FB post, but I'm too dumb to figure out how to share it here, I think my synapses have been congealed in animal fat.Basically it says that vegans are kidding themselves if they think no animal has died in order for them to be fed, directly, maybe not, indirectly, as much as meat eaters.We are at the top of the food chain, stuff dies in order for us to eat, c'est la vie!

Can't get this link to work. Maybe the clever vegans can. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/eating-vegan-the-big-picture/news-story/4945cb421c44440be96e3646c9ed942d

You in my thoughts, thinking positively for the best results!

Got mugged on the spruit a couple of weeks back. Had my pepper spray in my back pocket. I heard them running up to me and as I tried to get my pepper spray out of my back pocket they were already pulling me onto the ground. My jersey pockets were torn in the process and everything fell out, so initiative was lost. As I was trying to defend myself the knives came out and naturally I meekly laid back on the ground. Had the pepper spray been on my top tube I think I would have had a much better chance to defend myself and retain my cell phone. I will buy a couple.

Thinking of you Cois! Stay strong.

Why am I reading this thread?

Maybe Phil Gaimon will give it a go.

Self-sabotage, makes no sense otherwise!

Stay strong, I really hope you get a job soon, it will be something to focus on, increasing positivity, which is a good thing for mind and body.

So glad to hear some positive news Cois.

Ball gag and strap-ons get thru censorship but my post gets deleted! Must have left a bad taste in the moderators and Odinson's mouth

Thinking of you constantly Cois. Get treatment for the depression pls, don't let it get hold of you. Half the battle is a mental battle. Stay strong, positive thought is so powerful.

A melancholic rendition more fitting to the lyrics that the original.

I thought this was quite funny that I get meat adverts while viewing a vegan threat but then I realized that Google is probably analyzing everything I do and knows more about me than my wife, so of course Google knows I am an unrepentant meat eater. Odinson probably gets Kale and Tofu ads

With this kind of genius coding talent you should be working for Google or Facebook If you are going to make improvements and fix bugs then the one thing I noticed is that on the power curve display the curve lines are covered by the estimated values box. Can the box be moved to the right off the graph lines? See screen shot.

Agree on both the fee and the collection.

I have extracted some valid points you have made for further discussion. It is really only the middle to upper class or 'privileged' people that can adopt a vegan diet by choice. The lower class, the underclass and the poverty stricken don't actually give a flying f*ck for the environment, their day to day focus is essentially one of survival. These population strata are also the least educated and least educable. Unfortunately they are also the very humans that are causing the population explosion. So to say that we should eat less meat is very noble but pretty much pointless as the population segment that will hear your message, could afford to do this and is in a position to make this kind of ‘educated’ choice is so small as to be negligible. Secondly, if we eat less meat our calorie intake will have to be supplemented with other foodstuffs. If it is plant based foodstuffs then we will have to eat so much more to equal the calorie dense value of meat. Eating more will mean growing more which means needing more arable land, more water etc. This is going to have a knock on effect on every single component of the food chain. This is not an inconsequential decision. Thirdly, I do concede that the meat industry is not the nicest of industries but it has come about due to our success as humans in breeding and generating wealth. We could ensure that all meat is produced from natural, ethical, organic, sustainable, green and humane sources, but of course that would make meat unaffordable to all but the rich. It would also scale down the meat industry to a fraction of what it is today. So who has the right to place billions of people into a position of potential malnutrition, or to put millions of people out of a job? Lastly, who has the right to determine whose ideals are to be adopted? Who has the right to even decide that someone’s ideals are wrong? Who has the right to impose their ideals on another? Essentially you are manipulating what people can or can’t eat or how they should spend their money. This is fundamentally Orwellian in concept. Odinson are these your rights as a vegan?