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Agreed - it would be nice if Garmin became a partner but 5000 points for doing + 100km race (Dischem / Argus) and 3000 for a sub 100km race (94.7) outweighs the benefits of individual training sessions

Boys - have an awesome ride tomorrow - hope to see a few 2:59s in this group tomorrow - wish i was joining you but give an extra little push up chappies for me

Thanks RTG7 - much appreciated

Hi Boys, i am afraid that i am going to have to sit this one out. I went down in the AL bunch at Macsteel yesterday. Left clavicle is fractured (collar bone). I cant begin to tell you how dissapointed i am - it was quite an emotional few hours when it dawned on me that i wont be doing the Argus this year - just when i was feeling stronger than i ever have before. Will be routing for this incredible D bunch all the way. its starting to look pretty serious and i suspect that you will be passing the main C bunch and B bunch before the finish line. Ride fast and safe - praying for great weather!! Do it boys!!!!

Unfortunately i was one of those that went down at the 45km mark. The different level of the lhs and rhs of the road causing a ridge on the middle line is simple enough to navigate if you see it coming, but when you are 10 riders in on the centre line - its a lottery. it caught 2 of us in AL and then whilst in the ambulance we went back for 2 more guys in later groups that hit the same ridge. not sure what can be done other than red paint and warnings on the road - can't be filled in like a pothole

You bet - last year getting there from G group was just a stretch too far. F group managed 2 sub 3 and E group got a bunch over the line. Havent decided what i'll wear yet but will probably be in Cycle Lab kit and on a Cervelo R3 (Black, White, Red) Bring it on

Thats probably it! Last warm up race this weekend - Carnival City Macsteel - Flat and super fast. Yeh Baby

No not yet - when did yours arrive?

Its not going to happen twice though

Youre right Fandacious, i guess it always feels tougher than you think when that's where the front 5 broke away from the rest of the G group last year.

Probably is - but i would have thought that the organisers would cut that out as soon as the alternative was ready. Comming off Boyes Drive down to the coast road is always a bit hairey?

Whatever you say Superman

Not sure if its my imagination or just wishful hoping - but it looks like the 2012 route reverts back to cutting out the big Boyes Drive climb. Can anybody confirm / deny this? http://www.cycletour.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2012_RouteMap.pdf Check out the profile on the link above - it looks "relatively" flat around Boyes Drive.

I know this topic has probably been done to death - but i need to add my weight to it. CWC you boys (and girls) are awesome. Awesome Products Awesome Price Awesome Delivery Awesome Service Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray :clap: :clap:

I use super glue and a cable tie for good measure. Tried the double sided tape stuff that comes with it and was lucky not to lose it. Make sure you line it up properly before you glue it though or else this could be the outcome followed by this

Almost, just needs Campy record, a set of Boras and a Cervelo frame - then it would be perfect

A's started 5 minutes after the VB's

Posted Today, 08:00 Wannabe, on 14 February 2012 - 07:53 , said: TNT, whom on the Organising Committee do you contact for complaints / reports about the poor condition of the roads used for the race? It is not for me, but for a buddy of mine who did the race. Did the other riders in the race also think the road surface was bad / full of unfilled holes? Will pm you contact details. Please PM me the contact details too.

Oh come on Racetec - how hard can this be ???? Been hit by the Y2k12 virus?

Besides the standard set of energy sachets, vitamins and a water bottle a very nice set of Biogen Cycling gloves :clap:

Has anyone seen the Racetec results yet?

D group - 6:36

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I agree with all the sentiments but i am still interested in the answer. If there wasnt any of the obvious warning signs - is Paypal safe. My hunch is yes it is if you allow the funds to clear and be confirmed into your own paypal account. I'll do some research and report back.