We have been trying for close to 10 years to get permission and stuff done on the Spruit. Every time we nearly got somewhere there would be a new city parks person to deal with and everything went back to square one. The only thing we managed to do was kinda get permission through Delta school to build stuff on the school embankment. And they said we could make a path going down the treeline. We built ONE berm with a fallen tree in that section and they freaked. That's why Gav was threatened by Parks.
