Chunky

David is Going to ride for them until after the Giro I think. Both him and JR can pout their differences behind them to achive a common goal I think. Makes sense..... Will be nbice to see them head to head with barloworld again. I believe DG is waiting on an American team ??????

the 2006 TdL winner ? Konica Minolta untill end of March....

I think most people wear helmets because they have to rather than because they want to. Its a touchy subject. You have those who belive in it and those who dont. Most of the guys I ride with wear helmets because their wives say they must...LOL I have fallen off at the track before at nearly 90kmh motor pacing. Did more damage to my shoes than my head. Maybe I have just been lucky. Wearing a helmet is uncomfortable, even if you wearing a Giro. Makes racing with them crap too, can never get used to the thing.

Whats even more impressive is the fact that 7 guys went under 10 sec. Wonder where its going to stop. Dont forget that this isnt actually the fastest time ever ridden. Barry Forde rode 9.70 in Equador in October 2002 at the Pan Am Games, but the record was not allowed because of altitude and the lack of backup electronic timing.

I have been racing on a produx track frame and have had no problems at all. Donald wa sthe only one who managed to get the geometry of my bike correct. Hi sservice is great and his frames are great.

Would love to see Moollies on the track again. I am sure he will ride rings around most of the Elites out there Does Moolman not ride on the track anymore???

Those Helmets were given to us by Topsport. They were terrible..... Check those shorts..LOL

From left to right as follows Wayne Burgess Robbie Dale Me (Lynch) Malcolm Lange Dave Wiseman Moolman Welgemoed Alan Irvin This was in 1993 at the very first international held at Bellville.

These guys shouls learn from Rugby, the quota system does not work. All it does is put the entire team on its back foot because they have to include rides that are not upto scratch and shouldnt be there. There are a few good PD riders in South Africa that are well worth it. Why dont they just let the process deal with itself and eventualy the talent wether it be black or white will filter through. The problem is with the people who put these rules in place. They have no clue as to what is going on in the sport. SA riders in general are a bit out of their depth when racing against the worlds best, now go and throw in a few Darkies just for the sake of transformation and the problem gets even worse. Pathetic.

I can supply you 2007 Record for about 11k. If you are looking at the other sets, send me what you are looking or and I can almost guarantee I can beat their prices.

Colonel... They are all clean.

The problem is just getting bigger and bigger A short while after returning from the Tour of Mauritius early in October, the Cape-Town based CSC/CVT rider Travis Wilkins was informed he returned a positive test for testosterone during the tour.The same substance Floyd Landis was tested positive for in winning the 2007 edition of the Tour de France.According to sources, the positive outcome of the test was after his sample was send to the laboratory in Bloemfontein. The only internationally accredited laboratory in South Africa.In accordance with UCI and WADA regulations the Ministry of Youth and Sport, Mauritius, requested the sample to be send to Cologne for further tests and the result was reversed. Obviously, Mauritius doesn?t have the facilities to do the tests on this island paradise and must have a contract with the Germans to do have their tests done at the lab in Cologne. That is what logic tells me.With the reversal of the end result, a helluva lot of questions came to mind.After speaking to an old journalist friend, Eben Human of Die Burger, it also came out that another case was botched up in Bloemfontein. The marathon runner Gert Thys returned a positive result, but after further investigation, it became apparent there was a problem with the numbering of his sample that was delivered to the laboratory.Athletics South Africa (ASA) was supposed to give a final verdict on this matter yesterday (6/11/07), but it was postponed.I wonder if they?re perhaps waiting to see what is going to happen in the Landis case. Apparently, the same thing happened in France with the American?s sample.The first question that came to mind was how many other cases have been botched up in Bloemfontein? Positive results normally lead to lengthy suspensions.Lengthy suspension for a professional athlete means a huge loss of income. Moreover, to a top athlete, that can mean your livelihood. Finish and Klaar. Many of them are not qualified to do anything else and by being competitive, it is the only way they can support a family. The athletes will be branded as cheats, the sport in question normally is ridiculed, and the broad supporter base starts losing confidence in the discipline they so eagerly support. Not to mention the sudden loss of confidence from sponsors. The problem only starts mounting once a positive test has been confirmed. To my mind, the Wilkins case has been the first one that I know of that has been overturned after being ?double-checked? by another laboratory. Only because the Ministry of Youth and Sport in Mauritius requested it. Obviously, in Mauritius, they have their own rules and regulations, but thank God, for someone that made the decision to go this route. Otherwise it could have taken perhaps another 400 years before a definite flaw like this has been exposed.I believe it was done not to expose someone, but to conform within the rules that apply within that federation. In addition, by doing that something unexpected happened that could have a huge impact in the overall analysis of this worldwide problem.Believe me, I am 100% for suspending athletes if they try to create an unfair advantage. If you cannot perform within your natural ability, do not deprive other athletes the opportunity to try to achieve something. That is unfair.Nevertheless, it is also unfair to suspend someone if tests are botched up at a laboratory where everything is supposed to be scientifically correct. How is it possible that something like this happened?And there I have to question an organisation like WADA. Obviously, all the laboratories in question fall under their supreme command and all of them have to conform to the same rules and regulations regarding the testing procedures of certain elements. How is it possible then that the result can go from positive to negative regarding the same athlete? Surely, something must be wrong somewhere. Maybe WADA should start looking into that before Dicky Pound start shouting from the rooftops again. What happened to Wilkins does put a huge question mark behind ?our? own ability to get things right. But who says the tests was done in the correct manner in Cologne? Maybe Bloemfontein was right and Cologne wrong. Who will ever know? Do we have to get a third laboratory involved to justify either one?What happened in the Wilkins case complicate things even more and that, to my mind, is very, very scary.After everything that has been said and done in ?The trial by media? regarding Shawn Lynch in recent weeks, one thing he claimed came back to me. Lynch, in one of his interviews, claimed that things in Bloemfontein are not all that ?kosher?. With two recent examples (Wilkins & Thys) it makes a lot of sense why he said it.Can you imagine if every athlete that has been shortchanged in recent years because of the alleged use of banned substances latch on to this one to prove a point! The lawyers will have a field day and the poor courts will be swamped. http://www.cyclingsa.com/article_2006-11-7_2.html The IDFS are a total joke. They catch people for things hey havent taken, but they cant catch anyone who istaking stuff. If you want to start catching people, start sending the tests elsewhere, these guys are retarded.

The only way to stop it is to make it illegal. By that I mean sending people to jail for either testing positive or caught wih the stuff on them. Nota slap on the wrist and conviscation of their goodies. Sport has become a big money game and people are willing to risk plenty to make it to the top. But sitting in jail may be the answer to all WADA's problems. Since this whole debacle has taken place I have decided not to carry on doing what I was, which was only giving info nothing else. People need to put themselves in the athletes shoes and concider what view he or she would take if they were on the verge of a lifetime commitment to sport, and wether taking drugs or not is viable. Not knocking the average fun rider here, but most people have no idea what goes on at world level. I have been there, many many many times. I am not trying to convince you again what the pro's etc do but doping is rife and always will be. Every magazine you open wether it be cycling, running or any other sport for that matter has half the publication dedicated to who has been caught, who is under investigation. The problem exists in every proffesional sport.

That would suit you wouldn't it - just quietly slip back under your rock. BikeMax, we obviously have very different views on this subject. All I am trying to say is that we will obviously never think alike about this particular subject, and to keep on and on about it on this forum is going to get none of us anywhere. For those riders who dont use drugs and want to stay that way, good for them. If they can achieve good results like that then they obviously deserve more credit than the ones who do take stuff. As far as me slipping under a rock, I have never and will never do that. You keep preeching power training with power tap, and My guys will keep winning my way.

This topic is getting long in the tooth now. Nobody here is going to stop what is happening out there. So lets all rather talk about cycling and leave this topic alone.

I tell you what windbreaker, send me your address and I will send the whole lot over to you. You can pin them up on your wall and pretend that they are yours. Please dont lecture me or try and lay the moral issue on me. The issue was never funny or witty to begin with. As far as telling the truth is concerned, what do you want to know. You watched the TV didnt you. Yes, I got caught out and I admitted it.

Cyclists are all clean, nobody uses drugs. Just water and bananas..

Right here...

Chrispy, whatever my friend. You wouldnt need drugs anyway. If you racing in Cape Town there is no point.

nope. Watching the guy raise his game was reward enough for me. Like I said, I find this whole thing a big joke. To put it in perspective and show you just how out of touch theses guys are, let me tell you a story about something that happened this weekend. A friend of mine who last year was on a pro team stopped racing at the end of last year. He sent the federation a letter stating that he is no longer racing. He didnt take out a racing licence for 2006. He hasnt even been on a bike since 94.7 last year. Yesterday the IDFS rocked up at his house to do an out of season drug test. Highlited on the form was EPO. They said they had been given his name by CSA. Another rider who is currently on a pro team, and having won races lately has not been tested once this year. He even commented about SA champs where there was no testing done. Now, my thought on this subject is are they actually trying to catch anyone. How can the Federation or IDFS be so stupid as to test a retired rider who has put on 10kg's and not a rider winnng races. This just proves to me that the people trying to catch the riders are a bunch of idiots. I was at a track meeting in cape town and was drug tested there. Just for a joke I told the testing officer who was a doctor hat I was taking a well known brand of EPO. This guy didnt even react to what I said. Now, either he doesnt have a clue as to what is going on, or he is just there to collect his pay cheque for testing riders and is not at all interested. If the system is so backward, wy blame the riders for taking a chance.

Cracked up..hehehehe maybe that was my fat ass.

Popeye....yes yes yes. If I didnt help them, others would have.

Thanks Ricycle.