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  1. How Powerful Are The Pros? Wednesday 9th August 2006 - Dr Jamie Pringle How our home-grown riders compare to the pros This year's Commonwealth Games saw excellent performances on the velodrome, the mountain bike course and the road. There were 54 medals available across the events, and UK riders won 19 (five gold) and Australia took 20 (nine gold); both a long way ahead of the five medal total of the next closest country, Canada. I suspect that this domination of the competition may feed the general perception that British cycling is in a very healthy state ? Chris Hoy and Victoria Pendleton are now becoming household names. I had a vested interest in the men's time trial, and although I was disappointed to see Michael Hutchinson just miss the podium, I was very pleased to see him have a good race and be in the mix with the best riders on the day. The winner, Nathan O'Neill, had a very good ride indeed ? we are talking about a quality time triallist. But I know what a lot of people were thinking ? would he or Michael have broken into the top 10 of a Tour de France, Olympic or Worlds time trial? Just how good are the home nation riders really? It's a fair question, although one likely to go unanswered because never the twain shall meet. But if you read some of the forums and believe a few seemingly well-qualified commentators, you may have heard suggestions that George Hincapie, Sergei Gonchar, Levi Leipheimer or even Lance Armstrong would have put a healthy handful of minutes into this field. Well, I'll contend that is simply not possible, and I'll show you why, by using some swanky physiological mathematics. GREAT DIVIDE The gap of 15 seconds that Michael Hutchinson was shy of Commonwealth bronze equates to riding a tiny 0.5 per cent faster. For silver, Michael would have had to have ridden 2.1 per cent faster (64 seconds); and gold, 2.9 per cent faster (88 seconds). Racing at this sort of level requires a power output of between 400 and 440W. Hutchinson rode with SRM power cranks on his bike, so we have an accurate power profile for this rolling course. The relationship between speed and power depends on complex aerodynamics, and it's not easy to make comparisons between different riders, but for a single rider it's consistent (and predictable) and we can calculate the exact change in power (and directly, aerobic fitness) a certain change in speed would require. For Michael to have ridden 0.5 per cent faster to claim bronze would have required 5W more, or just over 1 per cent more power. The folks at Omega and USE provided Michael with probably the fastest bike set-up in the race, but 5W, albeit teasingly trifling, is equally agonising when you're operating right at your limits. In his hour-record trials we discovered that finding 5W more ? either gaining that from fitness, or from using different equipment ? was equivalent to adding a whole lap of a 250-metre track in an hour ? or pretty much the margin by which that record is broken. That 1 per cent difference in power is actually much smaller than the 3 per cent day-to-day variation in physiological fitness we normally expect in a human performer ? a variation that sometimes falls your way ? or not. However, we shouldn't entertain any ideas that the top step of the podium was a possibility had our man had his fabled 'float day'. The cubic nature of the power-speed relationship means that going 2.9 per cent faster in time to win gold would have required a huge 35W, or 9 per cent more power, which was unlikely to happen! So, to go just a little faster at this level of competition requires a large increase in power and fitness ? it becomes more and more physically and physiologically difficult to find gains in speed as we approach the upper limits. FASTER AND HARDER For a typical male tester to break the hour for 25 miles would require him to sustain about 250W of power (around 230 to 280W depending on body size, position on the bike and equipment, although I've seen as little as 200W in a pocket-rocket female national champ and well over 320W in a six-foot male). For our rider to shave 5 minutes off this time (ie 55 minutes and riding at 27.3mph) raises the required power by 70W and up to a 320W average. At a body weight of 75kg, that's 4.3W/kg ? about the standard of a first or second-category male rider. To take a further five minutes off the time and break the impressive 50-minute mark (ie to travel at 30mph) the required power rises a further 100W and goes up to 420W. This would mean being able to be in the mix at the National Championships and at 5.6W/kg is approaching the standard of the top-level professional riders. When Lance Armstrong made noises of attacking the Hour record at the end of his career, there were suggestions of him being able to smash the record and being able to sustain 'about 500W'. That figure was even suggested in a peer-reviewed scientific journal (Heil, 2005, Eur. J. Appl. Physiol., 93: 547-54) and seemed to be accepted as 'truth' from there on in. But it's nonsense. The highest values we could expect in a world record holder would be about 6.4W/kg over an hour-long race in males and 5.4 W/kg in females. I do not believe that Armstrong could sustain any more than 6.4W/kg over the race, and at 72kg that equates to a more realistic but still hugely impressive 460W. UNMATCHABLE One of the single most impressive rides I've seen in time trialling was Armstrong's second place in the prologue of the 2005 Tour de France. To beat his main rival Jan Ullrich by 66 seconds in a 21-minute time trial is a colossal gap. Both riders were on the same stretch of road and only one minute separated them as they left the start house. Armstrong put a minute into all his major rivals, so it can't be claimed that Ullrich was going easy and it's unlikely that everyone was having a bad day at the office. These riders will be sustaining a power output between 450 to 475W (6 to 6.6W/kg). At speeds of 50kph-plus and in a race of this duration, each 10 seconds faster requires about 8W more power, so at face value, this means a difference between Armstrong's and Ullrich's sustainable power of about 50W! Could he really have been a whole 10 per cent fitter than all his major competitors? I think not ? the difference in their physiological capabilities is probably not as great as that time margin suggests. That is, I suspect Armstrong has optimised every single aspect of his equipment and body position to generate more speed for his power compared to Ullrich. Little gains in speed here and there really do add up ? optimising the weave and cut of the rider's skinsuit can save up to a second each kilometre ? that's perhaps 20 seconds of the margin between these two. Last year, Armstrong's physiologist Professor Ed Coyle, gave us an insight into the progression of fitness across Armstrong's career (Coyle 2005, J. Appl. Physiol.; 98: 2191-6). Coyle reported VO2 max values ranging from 5.5 to 6L/min which is 76 to 83mL/kg/min when this value is expressed relative to the rider's body weight. Although no figures are reported for Armstrong at the peak of his powers, Coyle commented that he would expect a VO2 max of 6.1L/min or 85mL/kg/min at the time of his Tour wins. But I contend even that has to be a considerable underestimate of Armstrong's capacity, as Coyle's numbers don't add up; in every test conducted in the previous two years, Hutchinson has generated VO2 max values in excess of this. BEYOND A PUTATIVE PEAK Endurance performance cannot be explained in terms of VO2 max alone. Just as important is the individual's ability to sustain a high percentage of this maximum capacity. Furthermore, of all the components of his impressive physiological make-up, Armstrong had a good ability to convert the metabolic capacity of his heart, lungs and muscles into mechanical power with little wasted effort. This seems to be related to the volume of training built-up over many years. For example, research in world-class Spanish professionals found they could generate up to 20 to 40W more power for the same oxygen cost compared to their amateur counterparts (Lucia et al., 2002, Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., 34: 2079-84). However, Armstrong and Hutchinson (and presumably Ullrich) have broadly similar efficiency scores, so this can only explain a small part of their differences. I've suggested here that Armstrong can find some 20-60W more than our top Commonwealth riders (and most of his competitors in that 2005 prologue). We also know that every watt requires oxygen to produce and, even with Armstrong's efficiency, this extra output will still 'cost' him around 0.6L/min of VO2. This suggests that Armstrong would have required a VO2 max of about 6.7 L/min at Grand Tour fitness. At his racing weight this is about 93mL/kg/min, which not only exceeds the highest values ever published for cyclists, but nudges firmly against the ceiling of physiological ability as we know it. Increases beyond this are beyond the highest capacity of the heart, lungs and circulation of a normal man of equivalent size. It is unlikely we'll see anything like this again any time soon. So how would Armstrong, in peak condition, have fared at the Commonwealth Games? The 460W upper limit suggested above for an hour-long effort is about 10 to 15 per cent higher than our top domestic pro and, assuming similar aerodynamics, this would have equated to 50.3kph, or a time of 47-42, which is 50 seconds faster than gold medallist Nathan O'Neill. Jamie Pringle is a sports scientist lecturing at Brighton University.
  2. Thanks Cant wait..
  3. This guy's son took his Ferrari without permission apparently - then had the smash but walked away unhurt ..
  4. No debate there..any of my comments pertain to endurance cycling only. I know you are pretty clued up on power etc - are you using Performance Manager ? IMO it is the biggest single breakthrough in training planning I have seen in a long while and I am having great success with it to plan peaks and manage training load. Anyone with access to power data and not using it is missing a big trick.
  5. At least you don't need to worry about it affecting your cycling performance then Actually not fairing to well on the bike against the girls either - some english speaking girl in Univega kit gave me a shock about a month or so ago' date=' think her name was Nicole ... apparently she lives in the neighbourhood and rides for fun [/quote'] Yes, I think most of us would bring our ride to a speedy end if she came rolling alongside
  6. At least you don't need to worry about it affecting your cycling performance then
  7. There still seems to be a feeling that on bike strength work has some benefit but there is no scientific evidence to back this up. There is however a study that demonstrates why it is of little or no benefit - before you waste significant training time on low cadence strength drillls - read this article; http://home.earthlink.net/~acoggan/setraining/
  8. As Bruce has said - the power / duration curve will dictate race performance to a large degree. Bottom line, without sufficient FTP in W/Kg terms you will not be in the race. Plenty of riders have sufficient FTP but struggle in the shorter durations and therefore never win a race and often miss the selective break. We will always analayse a clients power profile and then use this to shape their programme to build on their weak areas. That having been said, all programmes spend a good deal of time building FTP - this is the key determinant of cycling performance. Hope this helps
  9. What a load of bXllox What a very objective and balanced statement of fact .. For what it's worth' date=' my (subjective) opinion on the Cannonadale product (Six13 and Tandem) is that they are probably the best made, designed and finished frames I have ever ridden (My last frame was a Litespeed Ghisallo and the Six13 kills it) [/quote'] good you are happy with your bike. that still doesn't change anything about the individualism that has never existed with cannondales. they produce their bikes in big scale and they are sold off the rack like this. probably most other companies would also like to have such a big sale but luckily only few do and so people with too much money will go on buying the cannondales... The only way to avoid buying a mass produced frame is to go to a bespoke frame builder and commision one. Any other bike, even the so called boutique brands are no more individual than a Cannondale and in many cases far less so. How you go from large volume sales, to people with too much money buying them is beyond me, maybe you need to look at your logic here i think you don't understand. what i said and will say further is what i observe - maybe it's not like that in SA but certainly in cerntral europe: people with money but little knowledge about bikes buy cannondales just because someone tells them they are good. along goes the cannondale team kit ad ready is the slow ou on a bike. just because of that there is too many cannondales which are not so uitstekend good as one might think because of the sold numbers. people just go with the flow - this for the lack of individualism and mass production. and you can call it bullocks again if you like. then come and visit me and I'll show you around a bit! I am from Europe so no need to show me round thanks All I can do is reiterate that you have given us absolutely nothing to back up what you say (first it was a fact, now it is an observation) There are far more high profile and widely marketed brands than Cannondale that do seem to attract buyers based on brand only (Trek and Cervelo come to mind) but Cannondale has always marketed itself as a small but high quality manufacturer - that has always been their niche market.
  10. What a load of bXllox What a very objective and balanced statement of fact .. For what it's worth' date=' my (subjective) opinion on the Cannonadale product (Six13 and Tandem) is that they are probably the best made, designed and finished frames I have ever ridden (My last frame was a Litespeed Ghisallo and the Six13 kills it) [/quote'] good you are happy with your bike. that still doesn't change anything about the individualism that has never existed with cannondales. they produce their bikes in big scale and they are sold off the rack like this. probably most other companies would also like to have such a big sale but luckily only few do and so people with too much money will go on buying the cannondales... The only way to avoid buying a mass produced frame is to go to a bespoke frame builder and commision one. Any other bike, even the so called boutique brands are no more individual than a Cannondale and in many cases far less so. How you go from large volume sales, to people with too much money buying them is beyond me, maybe you need to look at your logic here
  11. hey crux' date=' why you copying my setup???? as a fact cannondales are the least individual bikes on the market. they are way overrated (which doesn't mean they r no good) which can be observed anytime someone with little information goes to buy a bike - he buys a cannondale and because he's likes what the markets dictates him he also buys a cannodnale team outfit if he didn't enter some club where he has a club jersey. then also a helmet, top of the range of course. all that is still missing are the shaved leg and off goes our new professional! [/quote'] What a load of bXllox What a very objective and balanced statement of fact .. For what it's worth, my (subjective) opinion on the Cannonadale product (Six13 and Tandem) is that they are probably the best made, designed and finished frames I have ever ridden (My last frame was a Litespeed Ghisallo and the Six13 kills it)
  12. I generally have found that the higher the volume, the lower the quality control - by default, the faster and more automated the process, the more likely the quality slips.
  13. I have ridden (and still have) a set of 404s and have also owned a set of 303's and the Reynolds Stratus. Reynolds was the best build quality and a great wheel, the 404's are a great all round race wheel and even with a bit of wind are fine. The 303's are fine but not as fast or "all round" as the 404. I would go for Reynolds if you can get - contact Obree and if not the 404's.
  14. I have to agree that the pro race 2 is probably the best race tire I have ever used..but it is prone to punctures and does not seem to wear that well (in my experience) I have also used the tandem version and that is great too. GP4000 is not far off though in terms of grip and is much harder wearing and more puncture resistant - I hated the GP3000 but this is a different story.
  15. I have heard about this problem on the GP3000 but not on the 4000 - I have currently got a pair on and have found them to be great so far - lovely handling and good wear to date.
  16. Guys - we can help you. BikeMax has trained over 30 Epic competitors, from beginner to advanced. We have an online system to get your programme to you and to review your uploaded data. PM me for more details.
  17. I will be doing it again with my mate from the UK on our tandem. Always great fun and looking forward to it.
  18. Some sense at last
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