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at least someone got it... and appreciated it.

As long as it takes rechargable batteries for those extended stays and doesn't chip your birds teeth, then any 'multitool' will do...

And how do smaller cassettes handle mtb conditions? I suppose one would have to use an Ultegra (XT equivilent?) casette to get a tighter range?

Not to fussed about the weight to much, but looking for something compact. Tighter chain, smaller chainring to get (less) snagged on stuff. Also find I don't really use 3 chainrings, so why keep 'em... Besides, one pushes what gears you have on the mountain... So any recommendations about making up a 2 ring crackset?

Yeah, interesting set up. I have a HT that I have built with a 3-speed set, one gar for going up, one for tooling along, one for going down... Any advice from the mense out there: I am keen to build up a double crankset - whats a good combo of rings & do I need spacers? If i want to make a compact set would using a 32-22 set + like a 11/12-25 cassette give decent ratios. Or would it be better to try run a 34/36 and "standard" mtb cassette like 11-32. Bearing in mind this needs to work on a dual sus trail bike with 5" Also, what kind of intermediate rings can one get - choices seem limited

Sounds interesting... well if you lucky enough to fall out the door and you there, you are super lucky when you going home noshed out of your skull... We could always go to Teasers - I suppose it would be funny pulling in there and plonking all the bikes up on the stage and checking them out and ignoring the eastern block women... ja right.

Hmmm bring on the filth!!!! Talk dirty to me baby - mud, gravel, sand, twisty grubby corners, filthy little jumps.....sky ground sky ground - huuuuu huuuu huuuuu. (if this doesn't make sense read the "Stacking it" thread) Crow, I almost thought you had lost your marble for a moment. You know you can ride a mountain bike on the road (heaven forbid....)

Moretrails, Big High five! I digged riding on your wheel, like you said, When you exit a corner and the guy ahead pulls away, you realise he didnt brake much.. that meens youre braking to hard!so next corner I brake less.. and then sometimes taking a different line and almost ending up like a side by side dual. Was rad! I want more! But Im sure you need some time to heal up.. Crow, Ask him how he feels.. Yeah I think that lion was the inspration for the funny sounds I made... Cool, I'm keen to be the chaser next time. Actually i probably am going to have to be - noodling along at the back trying to hold on!!!!

Right now if you even email me about prodding the sore spots I will whince... I hate roasties - especially 2 days after..... Let me see if I can get some work out the way and join you ou's for beer and poo speak on Thursday. At least I will be forced to drink buffalo!!!

Hey guys PM'ed you my number, drop me a line if sunday plans going to change....

Cool, lets go for a spin then. Start around 10am, seeing as Crow is going to be a bit late... try get in as much trail as possible and a couple miles... See you guys and anyone else who wants to come play with on sunday...

Gangsta's in the house yo! How do the new Manitou's ride? I have an 07 Minute 4 - it eats big bumps, but the buzz just gets through and tires you out. Bos is bok for a spin in Tokia this weekend, wanna ride sunday morning? Maybe Bos will see this thread and react to....

Harley = chromed concrete mixer

Come on guys, use common sense here. Right of way aside, no-one likes to get ridden over and no-one likes their flow to be broken...especially when cups of tea are involved! So ride like a clever monkey, keep your eyes open and bear in mind that you will be in the position of whoever you are facing at some point (well in Tokia anyway). Those that ride up a unidirectional trail like Tokia, is maar net dom! So go ride your bike already, and wheelie the little bridge in the fairy garden to make it difficult - I still can't get it ride after many months!

Droo, he wouldn't understand - he is a roadie. They seem to aim at convensional stuff.

Droo, do some work china

This dude is insanely talented...I have heard he does brakeless trials as well Send us more links HOG, that was seriously cool...

Goodbadugly you are on the money. Baiesukkel you are building an xc whippet boet, not a beast. That aside, I am only chirping you can have one these and I can't (well not yet...). So that make me jealous and hopefully not to nasty... if you going super lightweight and Ti, then you gotta kit out your XTR with some Yumeya kit...www.shimano-yumeya.com/ Happy building

Had both, Shimano is easy to set up with smooth soft shifting (and maintenance to keep it that way). Sram is not as easy to set up, has punchy crisp shifts and maintenance is something that kind of happens when you need it. However once set Sram is then forget an ride system. Look at the conditions you ride, how often you service, but most of all ride both and it will answer your questions.

Kiwi, as BOLDED above - how is the tubing going to ride quality of the ride? Are you going to get a stiffer ride from the plain gauge tubes? Is it going to be a stronger frameset? Alternatively is the butted tube frame going to be more compliant with regards to trail buzz, giving a more sublime "steel hardtail" ride? Or does the difference in tubeset purely boil down to one frame being lighter than the other... If you were building a hard hitter, which one would you choose to thrash? I am 1.78m - how does sizing look? 18" for a good old trail bike that can be ridden all day but still thrown around a DH course on the way home? Shot dot

I think you may have to look at the ride quality you get from each frame. Chumba will be stiff and will probably want a supple fork to take out the buzz of the alu frame. The BB and drop outs are a serious bonus. One one will have that sublime springy feeling that only a steel frame can give. If you are spending a mint on the Chumba, is looking at the 456/Lynskye Inbred Ti and option? That IS a frame for life. Chameleon is an unreal platform, but it is a seriously harsh ride. This is only due to the fact that it is stiff as all hell, but utterly bomb proof. And that frame will be more than likely a frame for life too... Besides, why not by 2x On One frames if the pricce is so right, one with vertical drop outs and one with sliding drop outs - you know you can never have to many bikes! Let us Udders know what you buy and build, as it all in the details

Yeah I am keen to see the result. I have a ss in a state of paint removed flux and I am trying to work up the courage to take the ends of my fingers off with steel wool... end result please!!!

Aaah, now there is a question. n Not sure what the 100% answer is but I would say yes as the air chamber can increase/decrease due to flexibility (like let your tires down before putting the bike on the plane...) Not sure if the actual rubber would have anything to do with air temp, that would be more temperature. Planning on riding up Kili or something?