Spat

Thats great categories I am not sure how this group is going to work hey, my personal strategy is gonna be to try and stick with the front of J for as long as I can, and go as hard as I can, keeping in mind my own limits, as I would like to finish strong and hopefully have something left in the tank for the end. Looking forward to meeting on the 5th March. Have you looked at the split time calcs at all....sub 3 one is daunting hey.

I did a 2:56, still hopes for a 3:20'ish. So who is coming to the Tour De Penin group ride the week before, thought we could meet and greet and maybe even try and work toghether to see how it pans out

I am in. I passed on the message to Bones, Vallie not sure about them though.

Hi 1. Spat - J5572 2. MTB_Roadie 3. Pegasus 4. Katy 5. GTRacing 6. Daniel XT 7. Mr Mulebar 8. Skywalker1 9. g-rex 10. Yang 11. Thor Buttox 12. Tubehunter - J5681 13. Arnie 14. Pronutro 15. capeofstorms 16. Buchu 17. SuikerBossie 18. Ceres

Ok so numbers dropping...

What is the current numbers for this ride, its gonna be a big one hey?

Will be interesting to see Vinoukorov try to go out with a win. Agree the winner should come from either: Astana, Liqigas, Saxo, Leopard With podium finishes for the others.

LOL, thats classic, anyways I tend to agree with sentiments that at this level they all gotta be doing something hey, so lets see who is up there come Le Tour time.

I hope for your sake he will be a contender this year Airbender, he has looked lack lustre in the last tour. I would love to see some real hectic competition in the GC standings. Nibali may be the man in this team.

This has been my experience

Ghost rider is our very own Stig Some say...

Will ask Vallie and Bones to come along

Cool with 5:30 or 6:00

Hi I am in, would like to do the whole route as well. Is the PicknPay Mtb ride on this day, where is that taking place and will there be any road closures that we may have to take into account? Should not be hey, they should be on the MT not the roads.

Hi I posted in the tourdep thread and aksed if we would be welcome to join, I am sure its not gonna be an issue so I suggest everyone who is keen just post on that thread that they will be attending and then we can ride with them, they are a great bunch of guys I rode a burger training ride with them and it was nice group.

Hey I was chatting to the J group buch and suggested a meet and greet ride on this day as well, perhpas we should join you guys? Let me know before I post the suggestion in that thread.

You would probably get more response if you actaully started a Argus E group thread, not sure some of them would be reading this thread. Just a suggestion.

Can see someone does not have taper in their vocabulary;-) Yes we can make it easy pace no need to try and kill each other the idea is to meet and chat while we ride

Agreed, juggling the normal work load and still climbing the ladder means we putting in decent effort. I dont think I could have put anymore effort in, think that have to realise that time also plays a role, and by putting in the same effort from here we will build on what have gained this year so yip looking forward to the offseaon to try the MTB side out and hopefully will come back stronger when starts again.

I know 2 other guys that are in J group and are not on the Hub, they are great riders and will ask them to join the training/ meet and greet ride when we have it, suggest you guys do the same if you know of guys that are not on the hub but are in J. So the weekend before would that go against the taper rule? This week is Medalion and then following week is Bay City. Should we aim for the week after Bay City that would be 6 March 2011? We can go around slowly if everyone is worried about tapering?

Inspiring Bram as I can relate also started this season in M and with hard work have been going up slowly, hopefully I can replicate your sucess and fidn myself in E next year, that would be great. I do notice that it is getting harder for the guys to move up the ladder though, and I know of a few guys that are in the groups they are in because of last years results. In my experience I see myself improving dramatically since last year on my race times but at the same time I think the winning groups this season seem to be much stronger than last year as well heard that there are some very strong juniors this year. Obviously the adjusted winning times is also always an aspect that is a bit of a wildcard

Guys why dont we arrange a Pre Argus ride for one of the weekends before? What you guys think? If we meet before then we dont really need the face paint etc... for the weight weenies.

I am not gonna be behind MTB_Roadie then on Boys, suggest for that part your ride at the back MTB_Roadie Off Topic: Congrats on the move up to J (ppa group), I shall join you soon, I am on the edge betweek K and J

When this news came out , Andy Shlecks chain dropped.

I am in K now with 34.08 index, damn J would have been 34 need to drop the .08 somewhere