Ivanb

Yikes check my typing!! Thats physio's (physiotherapists) and chiro's (chiropractors) I dunno have a look do you? LOL Knee injuries are serious business, it can end the fun of running cycling or any sport quickly. Another point of interest which can also be factor to these knee pains. Leg extensions or knee extension it should be called is a bad exercise as it puts tremendous force on the ligaments etc in the knee when the weight is loaded and this seems to be a cause of many ligament injuries as the lower leg is pulled away from the upper leg and then the leg extension exercise is done while the ligaments are under strain. Sport medicine is now saying leg extension is a no no rather lunge or squat.

Benny Vansteelant passes away Following a serious accident last Saturday when his bike was hit by a car near his hometown on Torhout, duathlon legend Benny Vansteelant, 30, died in the early hours of Friday morning. http://www.britishtriathlon.org/images/articles/vansteelant_benny.jpgThe initial impact had broken his leg in two places, broken his shoulder, perforated a lung and damaged some of the cardiac muscles. Having lost a lot of blood and undergone one operation, Benny had been transferred from intensive care into an observation ward; however on Friday morning his heart stopped and subsequent efforts to revive him were unsuccessful. The British Triathlon Federation express their deep sadness at Benny's passing and pass on their condolences to his friends, family and the Belgian Triathlon Federation. Earlier this year Benny impressively took victory at the European Duathlon Championships in Edinburgh having dominated the bike section in an awe-inspiring display of power and determination. Over an exceptional elite career Benny had won the World Duathlon four times, World Long-Distance Duathlon four times and European Duathlon five times. In 2001 he won all three titles in the same season.

My sympathies go out to Benny Vansteelants family as he passsed away this morning. He is the current dualthlon champ many Powerman winner etc.Our Jason Spong raced against him many times and Benny was to visit SA for the first time and compete in Powerman SA in January 2008. What do we do to prevent these tragedies Benny Vansteelant - a life ended early Posted by: Editor Posted on: Friday 14th September 2007 Bookmark This | Print This Page | Send To A Friend The tragic news that Belgian duathlon legend Benny Vansteelant has died as a result of the injuries he sustained in the crash last week has been reported by the Belgian Standaard newspaper website: www.standaard.be According to the best translation we can currently get of the piece he had been moved out of intensive care following operations on his broken leg, shoulder and collapsed lung and was under regular observation on a recovery ward. His heart stopped sometime between ward checks at 5:30am and 6am and despite some 30 minutes of effort to revive him it proved impossible. UPDATE: There's a report in properly translated English on this website: www.vrtnieuws.net and we also have reports that doctors believe that he may have had some sort of seizure as he was actually found beside, rather than in, his bed. Thanks to all those contributing information to this story. His untimely death comes as a great shock to the duathlon world and his massive run of success at European and World level with 13 championship medals to his name plus the ability to win at both short and long distance races with equal ease marks him out as one of the truly great multisport athletes of his generation. It even looks as though the genetic twist of fate has struck twice as his younger brother, Joerie, has begun to emulate his success in recent years. Tri247 extends its deepest sympathies to his family and friends. Tributes are pouring in from all sides as those in the sport express their shock at the news. We spoke earlier with Clive Faine, Chair of the ITU's Duathlon Committee, who said, "He was, quite simply, the best".

Yip that is true. First we need to see if it not a latent injury. With teh ohyios and chiro's w ework with we find with cyclists is that their quads are very strong and tend to pull the knecap off centre causing pain. the pain on the side of the knee often is a beginning of ITB which is an overuse injury and this can be pedal and cleat position to. It can also be due to saddle and set up. I am not discounting the fact that Q rings could have an influence on this but they do definitely reduce knee pain as many cyclists riding them have had knee pain which has dramatically reduce or stopped. We have had comments from physio's working with the rings and their patients with such results. Guys I only hope your pain is not serious and that you consider set up checks, your warm up and stretching before and after your ride. Please let me know how it progresses so we can assist and advise you where best we can.

Hey windbreaker is that what you hide behind? Appropriate name. How come there are NO details about you on your profile? SO come out from behind your windbreaker and tell us who you are before you make these comments and then we can listen to you. It seems the westren cape is setting up an 'anti' lobby group. LOL thats cool

Not sure Iven B has read this study... Not Yet, it is quite lengthy. I amreading it. Who is the guy and are you believing 1 study, like you said what equipment and is it reliable blah blah blah.? LOL Yeah will read and comment and as I have always said everyone is entitled to their own opinions and research.

Welcome Home and well done Congrats Chersie

Let me know if you need more we will also help.

I pay for adverts here and can respond to forums about my products and everyone knows it is mine so I hide nothing.

Hye hey thats not nice. I would never do that and you know it

absoloutely nothing just saw it now. Why would I do that or are you jealous i didn't call you LOL

2 great threads Yeehaaa

Great to see another thread again. I'll have some of that popcorn

i think we should ensure that all 11 languages are used here!

That could be true as you say but as I said that what he gave me computed and done by the system. if its incorrect them my apologies for the system doing so. I have not said q rings will give anyone a 70% increase ever. He is not my man. We only quote a 4% increase in power and 9% reduction in lactate. (excluding decimal points)

Bikemax that is the data I received,. Whether it is right or wrong needs to be confirmed by tacx. I received the information and therefore as far a I know it is correct. What I said is that not all reading are the same, not all measuring tools are perfect note I use 'measuring' and some estimate, but if you continuosly use the same equipment for data then you have a guide to judge your benefits, improvements or deterioration. How can I in any way quantify someone elses product, results as good or bad as I have never tested them. These were sent by a rider to me and he could have sent it to anyone, I have a copy of the graph. This was amazing to see, and teh results were as we said even though consideriably higher. I always have said reduced heart rate increased power less lactate, and this is what he got. I coudlhave just as well just said higher power lower heart rate and I bet everyone would have asked how much!! So if you want accuracy justification speak to the rider and or Tacx. I put Tacx name there because everyone would have asked what was used. If you want to confirm, call them and I think CoolHeat are the agents. Let me know if you want their number. I can scan and email the supporting documents by means of the printoute that wants it. The riders name I can ask him if I can mention it?

Yes I know that. Those are the figures put out by the software. I accept what you say. Just interesting to see what guys are getting. It also shows that not all 'measuring tools' are perfect, as you say some only estmate.. Sure - but you have a duty to make sure that the numbers you post are valid and reasonable before using them to market your product. Not all of the readers know that these numbers are absolute hogwash - and so some may be tempted to buy your product on the basis of those improvements. They are misleading and you should correct them or remove them IMO. Bikemax Nothing is misleading that is the information is put out by the training units used. You should be telling them their units are hogwash in your opinion. The fact is positive changes are shown when using q rings. Itis not here for marketing purposes but for interest. Every one will have different readings, different times dependant on what they use to measure, whether it is in your facility on the road or in their bedroom. What is important is that when they measure with the same tools or units the results are consistent. So I'm not interest in product bashing whether its q rings or now tacx devises in your opinion, but rather an interesting discussion

Yes I know that. Those are the figures put out by the software. I accept what you say. Just interesting to see what guys are getting. It also shows that not all 'measuring tools' are perfect, as you say some only estmate..

FYI: I have 40+ rider who results were: Indoor with Tacx Exel 01/12/2006 no Q Rings: 20km time trial Time 29m58 HR avg 146.3, Power average 264w 11/02/2007 with Q Rings: 20km time trial 24min43 HR Avg 125.2, power Avg 450w

where are you? We have had huge success on tandems with the 54/42 set. Let me know where you are and I will set you up with one of our dealers.

I have a collegaue that makes an ID bracelet with all your info on med aid allergies etc etc . maybe that would better and have it made in blue and white with Hub logo? I wil chat to Matt from the hub about this.

This note goes out to everyone here. I must apologise to Johan for the comments above as some facts that I had and commented against are not just as to the position that Johan now holds. I must say I appreciate all comments good or bad and we all know they assist in many ways for the truth to come out to all potential users or those just interested in what is going on. As I said to Johan in a pm to him I apologise all I would like is honest opinion wihtout blatent slating or derogatory comments. My apologies again and let this forum grow from strength to strength.

Johan I am quite disappointed at the comments you have made. I wanted to meet with because you sounded interesting and we could have good discussions about your point of veiw, but it seems you have a hidden agenda, or someone or something has done something to you to warant this abuse. If 'thehubsa' belongs to you and we are all commenting incorrectly then I apologise and I will not come back here. But from what I know about it, it is an open forum for discussion amongst cyclists. 'Scientists' can post their veiws, the man in the street can do so to and so can I. I see as well you wear BBB branded shirt and you did say in one of your comments that Q Rings are expensive and more expensive than what you use which is 'sponsored or remunerate' BBB product. Yes of course they are more expensive than BBB and yes of course they offer more than the BBB round rings but those points against competitor brands I do make unless forced to. We sell and market q rings and their products we do not sell against any one brand but against type of product. Comments we make against Biopace or O symmetric is when people have commented or asked about them. So I believe in what I sell, I live by them and will do what I can to get everyone on my side by building good relationships and trust. I will never get everyone because there are always those that will never change. We will continue with our atheltic proven technolgies.