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So I am willing to put money on the fact that within the next 6 months there will be a Tallboy vs. Stumpjumper ST thread.
The question is .... where will you be putting your vote!!! 
How sandy is 'Sandy' when you guys talk about riding next to the river??
Contemplating doing either the 37 or the 56 but undecided.
Managed to do ok in the MTB argus which is 40km. how intense is that extra 16km??
So i went ofr my first ride today. was great. just need to adjust a few thing on the bikefit side.
forgot how great that SWAT compartment was on the camber. it really is genius. saddle bag is irritating when the knocks against the seat post. will have to look for some accesories
for now it will have to work as i dont have any alternatives. vid looks cool with all those gadgets but time will tell.
What all do you carry with you then?? all that guy was short of was a dishwasher and sunlight soap...
My thinking is
2 bombs
tubelss repair kit
and maybe a spare tube...
and i quite like that spez chain fixer that goes in the top by the handle bars...
as you can see jargon is not my thing
Stunning!!!
Now get rid of that saddlebag
And I hate to point this out, but it looks like you got a kid as part of the deal too!
Kid was on the couch until i got THREATENED... 'couch pic or it didnt happen'...
Got discount on the bike... Kid still costs me more 
what do you do/use or how do you carry spares without saddle bag???
Many miles of smiles !!
ENJOY !! Kom jy hom Saterdag uit toets by die Fine Breede MTB ?
unfortunately not this time but will be at the Philadelphia race on 14th
it happened
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so...
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If you have still not bought the bike by 7am tomorrow, you might as well just keep riding what you have. You clearly don’t actually want a new bike
its too late... old bike has been sold!!! new one has to come, pulled the plug today...
lets see what arrives... 
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I had a Merida (HT), a Rocky Mountain (Thunderbolt) and a Giant (Anthem) before the Scalpel. The new Scalpel's geometry is perfect for the type of riding I do, which is mostly marathons with some play in the mix during training rides. My previous bikes were all either too playful or too "racey", whereas the new Scalpel is just at the right balance for my riding style and type of rides.
Key differences with previous bikes:
Merida was super light but uncomfortable (being a HT).
Rocky Mountain was too playful, was unbreakable but way heavier and smaller wheels (27.5) which I found not ideal for long days in the saddle. In saying that though, if I had the space for another bike I would have kept this one as a toy.
Giant was an awesome marathon machine, but heavier and had longer chainstays and steeper head angle - so absolutely perfect for long days in the saddle but a bit boring on the days I wanted to play. I believe the new Anthem has more playful geometry though...
Scalpel - slightly more relaxed head angle, lighter, shorter chainstays, which equals: climb like a goat, playful through turns and can handle a bit of fast jumpy sections - i.e. exactly what I wanted. Plus it looks super (man, just thinking of it I wish I was at home now and not at the office and could stare at it
).
Thats great that you got the bike that suited you best.
well done.
I have a Momsen Vipa Trail one. Fscking LOVE it. Lots of disrespect aimed at the Momsen brand, but having ridden quite a few bikes over the years, I'm having more fun on this bike than my super light Cube dual suspension bike.
Take the Trail One or Two for a test ride. Just do it.
Thanks for the feedback. The momsen seems great but it doesn't stand out to me. But thank you
I'm sorry but buying a new Santa and having it sprayed is as dumb as winning the lottery and putting new Ferrari mags on your Cortina. Your warranty is immediately gone!
Ya that wouldn't work hey
Buy whatever is your dream bike. Otherwise you will end up buying it later anyway after losing a lot of money first on something else. Thrust me, I did this three times before I bought my dream bike (a Scalpel) which I will ride for a long time now, since it makes me happy every time I look at it, ride it, touch it (yeah I know, I have a bit of a bromance with it, don't tell my wife!).
Don't go for best value, because best value does not equal dream bike necessarily. Trust me, I have been down that road before as well. Buy the one that your heart wants and you will be happy and save money in the long run.
What bike did you have before. How do you find the geometry of the scalpel. The scalpel has always intrigued me.
What colour are you taking on the TB3?
Aah I see what u did there...
The black. Wish I could find that Matt purple 2017 frame. But only black is available at the moment.
I've also sold mine, I don't miss the 10k installment or the + 2k to fill the tanks.
Yes. But I do miss it during hunting season. And that V8 roar from the 76mm de graaf
Thanks guys. Appreciate u making life difficult. 
Why is the Pyga not on the list any more?
Edited thank you
So this is the week that i was/am going to order my santa cruz tallboy 3.
I have been getting buyers remorse before i have even bought this bike for 2 reasons.
1. its a #$%#&* load of cash and not one i can afford to make a mistake on.
2. i keep second guessing if there is not a better( cheaper and gives me same performance for my needs) option.
Initially it was the SC vs Pyga, Then SC vs Trek now i cant help but throw them all in to make sure i make the right choice. Even some i didn't initially think of
My main needs are a bike that is good on trails and to use for races and for commuting 20km to work. I dont make podiums but not last place as well in the races. We all get a bit competitive... .
Body structure is 85-90kgs. 1.82cm tall.
Tallboy 3
Scott spark 920
giant anthem
trek fuel ex9.8
or back to Camber ( maybe the expert this time??)
Pyga Stage Max
Cannondale scalpel Si 3 or 2 ( hadn't considered this bike before)
I have only tested the camber(prev owned), spark(940) and haven't had time or availability to test all of them hence my thorough questioning for advise.
i will try not to drag this out to much.
thanks in advance for your advise.
thanks guys
Thanks guys
i appreciate all the responses.
I can see that it is a mix of bike and technique.
seems to be such a small difference even between XC and trail bikes when i compared them...
BIKE BBheight BB drop
Camber 330 42
TB3 330 40
9.8ex 344 30
Spark 910 327 43
Scalpel 334 38
i got all these figures off the respective websites.
to my inexperienced eyes they all seem to be so close.
was surprised by the scalpel as i never hear ppl complaining of pedal strikes on those...
Admin pls move this if it is in the wrong section.
Hey guys.
So i recently posted in the 'buyers guide' section about a tallboy3 vs stage max and then a trek fuel ex9.8.
So i am leaning towards the tallboy.
My question is that when i was seeking advise ppl said that the trek seems to pedal strike alot. some said that was the bike and some said it was the rider...
So on my previous camber i didnt really feel that it 'pedal stikes' alot. i mainly ride tygerberg trails. but when i did the MTB argus i had it happen quite a bit in that rooty section of single track after the first long climb at 17km mark.
so was that my technique or actually that the camber has a low BB and because the TBMTB dont really have very rooty sections i never noticed it.
Reason for all this back and forth is that i dont want to drop 80k on a tallboy to find it is a bike that struggles with pedal stikes like the trek. there is not much online about it struggeling.
Please help out with some advise.
Next Bike : Trail vs XC
in Buyer’s Advice
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SANTA CRUZ TALLBOY 3.
I had the same decision as you. I came from the Camber comp carbon and went for the tallboy 3.
Couldnt be happier.
Lifetime frame guarantee.
lifetime guarentee on their carbon wheels aswell. Thats great.