BigToe Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 excuse the ignorance, but would that tube not rattle inside the frame over rough terrain?
Palaeodom Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Sorry, but 'Art' is not mass-produced in a factory in Taiwan Why not? can beautiful things not be mass-produced?
Hairy Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 excuse the ignorance, but would that tube not rattle inside the frame over rough terrain? I would think so too, hence my comment RE a brazed / welded Ti tube in the frames set vs the other option of a conventional hose being routed.
Wyatt Earp Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Sorry, but 'Art' is not mass-produced in a factory in TaiwanOf course it is.
DaLoCo Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Why not? can beautiful things not be mass-produced? In this case I prefer mass-produced to "art". Never mistake exclusivity for art
Wyatt Earp Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Nice! But there is another improvement shown here. See where the calipre is mounted? Tipped down and forward on the rotor. No 'pull-out' force on the wheel! Very sweet.You are gonna have to explain this in a bit more detail .I don't see the benefit.
MintSauce Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Why not? can beautiful things not be mass-produced? I guess it's a matter of personal opinion. I see art as something that an artist poured hours of time, effort, heart, soul and self into. I don't see a designer sitting behind his laptop making CAD drawings of carbon frames in the same vein as a frame builder piecing together a frame by hand. Just my opinion.
Palaeodom Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) I guess it's a matter of personal opinion. I see art as something that an artist poured hours of time, effort, heart, soul and self into. I don't see a designer sitting behind his laptop making CAD drawings of carbon frames in the same vein as a frame builder piecing together a frame by hand. Just my opinion. I would agree from a classical point of view, but in my opinion if a hundred people are involved in the task of R&D, design and building it shouldn't detract from the beauty of the final piece. After all, who gets the credit for an amazing building the builders or the architect? Edited March 2, 2011 by Palaeodom
Guest big baby Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Beautiful engineering and industrial design, but sorry, it's not art.
MintSauce Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I don't think it detracts from the beauty either. It does detract from the meaning behind the item. Like I said...it's just my personal opinion.
Guest big baby Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Of course it is. While this is a great piece of design, it is not art. A pretty photo of an engineered set of tubing hardly defines art. The concept of art embraces any human activity in which one emitter, by means of external signs, transmits previously experienced feelings. Well, according to Tolstoy, that is. But what would he have known?
eggsovereasywithteandtoast Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Beautiful engineering and industrial design, but sorry, it's not art. The problem is the use of the opening word: "beautiful"This may be confusing the issue.It would be better to say that it is good and cutting edge.Tone down a bit on the Bames Jlunt here. I must agree here with you though.The concept is good original designThe welding is good skill / abilityIf it was painted nicely, I would have said that there was some art involved. But there isn't. (typed while listening to: 'Psycraft: Electric Charge')
Guest big baby Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 The problem is the use of the opening word: "beautiful"This may be confusing the issue.It would be better to say that it is good and cutting edge.Tone down a bit on the Bames Jlunt here. I must agree here with you though.The concept is good original designThe welding is good skill / abilityIf it was painted nicely, I would have said that there was some art involved. But there isn't. (typed while listening to: 'Psycraft: Electric Charge')Cutting edge it is not. See LHC for this.Good is subjective.Beautiful is my opinion. Back to your Oontz oontz now...
Guest Big H Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Art: The jerk has never seen plantain in his life
Guest Big H Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 While this is a great piece of design, it is not art. A pretty photo of an engineered set of tubing hardly defines art. The concept of art embraces any human activity in which one emitter, by means of external signs, transmits previously experienced feelings. Well, according to Tolstoy, that is. But what would he have known? Tolstoy was a writer, writers deal in dreams. Real art is James May's "Paradise in Plasticine" ..... a garden modelled in Plasticine that he submitted on the Chelsea Garden Show.
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