Formula 1...

[IceCreamMan]

41 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

I must be honest though and say the most fun I had watching last night's race was the battle Ocon and Alonso were having with one another. Otnar Zsafnauer must have been quietly vloeking them.

Agree. Was surprised no orders on this. Alonso did look quicker at that point anyway. 

[Robbie Stewart]

39 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

Agree. Was surprised no orders on this. Alonso did look quicker at that point anyway. 

Alonso is a wily old fox as they say, and he is not ready yet to go quietly into the night. Jenson even suggested that passing Alonso was a feat in and of itself, and that he detests being passed by his team mates. By the time the orders did eventually come, it was just in time for Bottas to capitulate and get the place of Ocon.

40 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

His tyre strategy was his downfall. Mercedes here messed up. He was racing Mag for position and was undercut. Should have changed him much earlier on 

Merc seems to be off the strategy game for the last couple of races of last year and into the current season. It seems they're a team rattled and are starting to make knee-jerk decisions. Think keeping Hamilton out during the safety car period at the season ending race at Bahrain, and again yesterday. 

Strategy wise Ferrari got it spot on yesterday when they called Le Clerc in to box and Perez responded first. They were already showing better degradation than Red Bull and Perez took the bait, giving Le Clerc the lead.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

3 hours ago, Robbie Stewart said:

It seems like the Merc era is starting to waver, and at long last Scuderia Ferrari are back as contenders. I was torn between being a Tifosi and wanting Max and Checo to score points for RBR. All in all it was a great race and exciting to see such close racing without the usual tantrums (for the most part other than moaning about harvesting lights or crossing the pit entry lines).

Early indicators , to me at least , show that my suspicion that Russel would outdrive Hamilton is not entirely unrealistic. He is getting older, and the human body eventually resists putting up with constant pressure as experienced when driving a F1 car, and youth is firmly in Russel's favour. I suspect he's retiring at the end of this season, especially if the Merc performance lingers for an extended period.

I can't wait to see the Le Clerc, Verstappen, Sainz battles lined up for the rest of the year. Hamilton might mix it up, but I'm not so sure anymore. He seems mentally defeated to me.

A lot of people said the harvesting lights was moaning, I saw it as simply a question.
Later in the race the commentators praised Lewis for his strategic use of his opponents harvesting to time DRS use and over taking. It is definitely a part of racing, and a requirement to race btw.

The white line thing, perhaps if the team answered he would repeatedly be asking........

[Robbie Stewart]

1 hour ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

A lot of people said the harvesting lights was moaning, I saw it as simply a question.
Later in the race the commentators praised Lewis for his strategic use of his opponents harvesting to time DRS use and over taking. It is definitely a part of racing, and a requirement to race btw.

The white line thing, perhaps if the team answered he would repeatedly be asking........

Look, I agree, rules are rules and they should be abided by.

But as Michael Massi so aptly replied to Toto last year, " this is a motor race " and in that light I would prefer the race to be won by whomever was the best driver on the day.

To be the best driver means you outwitted your opponent by outdriving them, and not because you managed to create some bias in the Stewards minds, whether that was justifiable or not, which results in your opponent getting some form of sanction and in so doing handing you the win. That is what I'd expect from Hamilton.

I yearn for the golden days of Formula 1 when races were won, and lost, on the race track by men who engaged in wheel to wheel racing right up to the line. More or less like what we had yesterday. But all this nonsense on the radio having a bit of a cry about some issue is too woke for my liking.

Grow a pair of balls, suck it up cupcake, and go race your frikken car like the man you are.

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[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

24 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Look, I agree, rules are rules and they should be abided by.

But as Michael Massi so aptly replied to Toto last year, " this is a motor race " and in that light I would prefer the race to be won by whomever was the best driver on the day.

To be the best driver means you outwitted your opponent by outdriving them, and not because you managed to create some bias in the Stewards minds, whether that was justifiable or not, which results in your opponent getting some form of sanction and in so doing handing you the win. That is what I'd expect from Hamilton.

I yearn for the golden days of Formula 1 when races were won, and lost, on the race track by men who engaged in wheel to wheel racing right up to the line. More or less like what we had yesterday. But all this nonsense on the radio having a bit of a cry about some issue is too woke for my liking.

Grow a pair of balls, suck it up cupcake, and go race your frikken car like the man you are.

I am not a Lewis fan and so I saw similar communication as moaning, I prefer Max although I am not a fan and so I see it as simply communicating with his team. I know I am biased.
That being said, harvesting lights are a rule. It should be adhered to and contravening it should lead to penalties. Not to the driver in this case, but the team. Especially when they can be used strategically and so not having them gives you an advantage.

Remember, the golden years had a lot of racing for pride (Prost vs Senna for example), nowadays there is way too much money and politics involved. Those golden years are gone I am afraid. Not many drivers are willing to race wheel to wheel, of the current crop who is there that has shown they can/will? In my mind Vettel, Verstappen, Alonso, Albon, Stroll showed it a bit last night...... Who else?

 

[Robbie Stewart]

17 minutes ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

I am not a Lewis fan and so I saw similar communication as moaning, I prefer Max although I am not a fan and so I see it as simply communicating with his team. I know I am biased.
That being said, harvesting lights are a rule. It should be adhered to and contravening it should lead to penalties. Not to the driver in this case, but the team. Especially when they can be used strategically and so not having them gives you an advantage.

Remember, the golden years had a lot of racing for pride (Prost vs Senna for example), nowadays there is way too much money and politics involved. Those golden years are gone I am afraid. Not many drivers are willing to race wheel to wheel, of the current crop who is there that has shown they can/will? In my mind Vettel, Verstappen, Alonso, Albon, Stroll showed it a bit last night...... Who else?

 

Agree. Rules must be adhered to. No dispute there. I am just not a fan of all the radio interference constantly tattling on each other. I find it very unprofessional. I suppose all the money and politicking makes that a pie in the sky dream to expect the drivers to resolve their battles purely on the track, but having watched Prost / Senna battle it out one can only wish. 

I'd rather emulate them than be more of a Hakkinen who would prefer to go have an actual cry behind a bush. Imagine being remembered for that rather than all the battles he had with Schumacher.

As for who else would race wheel to wheel in the current crop of drivers, I'd have to say the list is getting shorter by the minute. I would think perhaps add Le Clerc to your list. He has shown over the course of the last two races that he is willing to go for the gap if he senses its there for the taking. I'm not convinced that Sainz and Perez have it in them to fight. Bottas looks like he is gearing up for a fight soon.

What I hated about the race last night was all the drivers literally pulling aside for Hamilton as he made his way up from 15th. The only real battles he had was with Stroll and Magnussen. All the rest let him by, but I suppose them all being Merc clients they all had Toto in mind...

[BaGearA]

Well even with all the moaning , he still beat Charles on track,  who arguably had the better car 

On 3/24/2022 at 9:27 AM, RoddieJ said:

 

[IceCreamMan]

Think Mercedes are sandbagging. 

[RoddieJ]

8 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

Think Mercedes are sandbagging. 

Me thinks so too... 😂

Surely the current points gap can be made up over 20 races... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[IceCreamMan]

24 minutes ago, RoddieJ said:

Me thinks so too... 😂

Surely the current points gap can be made up over 20 races... 🤷🏽‍♂️

Lewis fans always believed he is the greatest driver of all time, thus he only needs one race really to close the points gap.  😂

[MrJacques]

I see that the F1 drivers will dice each other in Las Vegas next year.

Edited March 31, 2022 by MrJacques

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

12 hours ago, MrJacques said:

I see that the F1 drivers will dice each other in Las Vegas next year.

What do you think of the track layout. Looks like lots of DRS overtaking but a boring layout overall IMO.

 

[MrJacques]

1 hour ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

What do you think of the track layout. Looks like lots of DRS overtaking but a boring layout overall IMO.

 

Yeah, probably.

[IceCreamMan]

14 hours ago, MrJacques said:

I see that the F1 drivers will dice each other in Las Vegas next year.

It’s got a certain Stallone movie feel about the whole thing. 
 

should be a spectacle. If they can get the safety stuff sorted. 

[Robbie Stewart]

Found this parking off at the entrance to Checkers in Brackenfell . . . this gives new meaning to random . . .

[Vetplant]

25 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Found this parking off at the entrance to Checkers in Brackenfell . . . this gives new meaning to random . . .



 

Random indeed.

Windtunnel model? Now used as promotional hardware?

I don't remember this "Walrus teeth" nose configuration ever being present for MV... or am I mistaken?