capeofstorms Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Hi, Just interested to know when you all starting your base training. What do you consider as base training and what sort of rides do you do? IMO I consider base as clocking 1000km.
Brakkies Sport Fotos Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 on a road bike, or mtb? ave heartrate? flat road, hills? the 1000km is very far off. i.m.o
Tiny K Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Base training IMO is LSD (long slow distance). 150Km+ rides just to get muscle built for 'fine tuning' closer to the spring/ summer season. So the idea is that it is not raced distance but rather quality time in the saddle.
Brakkies Sport Fotos Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 let me explain (only my opinion and this is how I do it) I do not count the kilometers - its means nothing !! I do 4 - 5 hours LONG rides at ""just above"" easy riding, on saturdays and sundays. If you were off the bike for 6months or more, you need at least 2-3months of long rides, just to get the lungs back, and power back in the legs. If you are a youngster, obviously speed is most important, however, for me, endurance is more importants So if you can go for 38km/h for 120min, I can go 35km/h for 5 hours. The older you get, endurance is more important.
MariusL Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Base training IMO is LSD (long slow distance). 150Km+ rides just to get muscle built for 'fine tuning' closer to the spring/ summer season. So the idea is that it is not raced distance but rather quality time in the saddle. Well depends on your general fitness... can't expect a newbie to suddenly start out doing 150kms +++... I know a guy who have raced (and won the Giro del Capo - and is now a D.S for MTN), he seldom did that kind of mileage... 150 seems a bit much Quality > Quantity Edited March 22, 2011 by MariusL
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Hi, Just interested to know when you all starting your base training. What do you consider as base training and what sort of rides do you do? IMO I consider base as clocking 1000km. I don't do any base training. I go straight into the interval stuff - easier and slower intervals to start then longer and harder as the season progresses. IMO you don't need to do base unless you're new to cycling or have been off for an extended period.
TNT1 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 . I know a guy who have raced (and won the Giro del Capo - and is now a D.S for MTN), he seldom did that kind of mileage... 150 seems a bit much Who? Tiaan? Anyway, base should be about time in the saddle, not neccessarily distance. Depends what your season's goals are what that time should be. We generally do 4-5 hours daily as base.
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Well depends on your general fitness... can't expect a newbie to suddenly start out doing 150kms +++... I know a guy who have raced (and won the Giro del Capo - and is now a D.S for MTN), he seldom did that kind of mileage... 150 seems a bit much Quality > Quantity I have to agree - I can't see the benefit of doing 150km rides at training pace when when you race 100km in 2:30 (probably half the time of thr 150km training ride). Unless of course Epic or Stage Racing is on the cards...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I have to agree - I can't see the benefit of doing 150km rides at training pace when when you race 100km in 2:30 (probably half the time of thr 150km training ride). Unless of course Epic or Stage Racing is on the cards...People tend to overdo it.For 24 hour it's almost impossible/idiotic to train for 24 hours.I normally throw in a 9 hour ride at race pace plus 1 km/h.So the same should apply here I would guess.
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 People tend to overdo it.For 24 hour it's almost impossible/idiotic to train for 24 hours.I normally throw in a 9 hour ride at race pace plus 1 km/h.So the same should apply here I would guess. See now that makes sense to me. If yoou are preparing for 6 hour plus Epic stages I guess 150km road rides are beneficial (or if yoou're trying to lose weight). As the previous posters said - time is important not km. About 15 years ago the 1000km before you do intervals rule seemed right but modern training guides show that the fastest route from zero to hero is intervals from the starts. Unless of course you are a beginner or have taken an extended break in which case a bit of muscle and cardio conditioning is good before you head off and try to kill yourself.
Wyatt Earp Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Also depending on my goals.For 24 hour I do base, three weeks up three weeks down ranging from 12 hours to 16 hours by week three then I taper back to ten and increase by 15 % per week till I get to 17 hours to 25 hours.After this I do my intervals.
'Dale Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 As Dangle wrote, it is goal-specific. I specialise in 100 km road races between Sept and March. Base training for me is 4.0 rides at least once per week in heart rate zone 60-70%.
GuyP Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I do not count the kilometers - its means nothing !! +1 that's why it's called time in the saddle
GuyP Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Quality > Quantity Maybe this holds for road race training, but I don't think so for ultra distance, say 400km+, 600Km+ etc. I don't think you would be able to do a 300Km comfortably on quality only. We had an ex pro with us on our 600Km audax last weekend. A strong man, even he BATTLED once we got over 450Km
nuge Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 just ride man, and try to enjoy it every now and then.
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