32GI

[Wobbles]

When you coming to KZN?

[Lucky Luke.]

I have been reading a few threads on this subject but there is so many conflicting views and ways of using it that I am confused.

 

I usually ride with Cytomax and GU's. I decided to try G32 with GU and had an uneventful ride as it was not too hard or long but I would not say that either product was better than the other.

 

I then read that you don't use GU with 32!! I tried this and I felt very flat throughout the ride.

 

I also read that you only take GU the last hour with 32. I tried this and nothing kicked in!!

 

Yesterday I went back to Cyto and GU and felt great throughout the 3 hour ride!!

 

In mitigation, when I used 32 I also had Future Life as a pre-ride meal whereas when I use Cyto -I use my tried and tested Low GI toast with Peanut butter and honey.

 

It appears obvious that Cyto is the way to go for me but I am always willing to try new things and perhaps if I used 32 in the right way it could be of greater benefit to me?

 

If your body is used to a load of Cytomax and Gu every time you ride, I don't think you can just switch to a low GI product and expect the same or better ride experience. It takes time for your system to adapt to a steady flow of the right amount of carbs, but you will benefit long term from the adaptation.

[MDW]

Tony Impey customers fuelled by 32Gi ;-)

[Wobbles]

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If your body is used to a load of Cytomax and Gu every time you ride, I don't think you can just switch to a low GI product and expect the same or better ride experience. It takes time for your system to adapt to a steady flow of the right amount of carbs, but you will benefit long term from the adaptation.

 

Thanks Luke, that gives me some encouragement as in my race today I was not feeling good with 32 and at the turn changed to GU and water and felt a lot better!!

[Lucky Luke.]

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Thanks Luke, that gives me some encouragement as in my race today I was not feeling good with 32 and at the turn changed to GU and water and felt a lot better!!

 

No probs. If you are training on GU and Cytomax as well, maybe try doing a few moderate intensity training rides on 32GI and / or water only. That way your body will probably start to adapt to a steady flow of energy and be a bit more efficient in how it burns carbs.

[orbeaorca]

I have been using it for past 3 weeks. I have been fading a bit after 3hrs of riding and seem to perk up after eating sweets or dates. I normally ride between 3-4 hrs. As I am riding the one tonner what can I eat without negating the 32gi?

[MDW]

Hi Luke and Wobbles, wanted to add some information to your debate, as I still think there is confusion around the use of 32Gi.

 

Firstly, I need to say that it does not require a lifestyle change to benefit from the product, its important to note that. A lifestyle change energy drinks aside will benefit you in sport ;-).

 

32Gi is a low GI endurance energy drink, so whats most important is really the pre-race meal and during the race. You need to take in or start taking in the 32Gi prior to the event and its best taking in combination with a low GI meal.

 

With that said, 32Gi works like this, assuming you have take in 32Gi with a low GI meal, when you start exercising, it will utilise 2 sources of energy, the first is the readily available glucose of which there is a sufficient amount for the muscles but not a flood, the second thing is it will tap the fat stores for the balance.

 

"The 32Gi studies examined the effects on different parameters like e.g. plasma glucose and insulin levels, the content of free fatty acids in the blood,

as well as its influence on energy production from the body’s carbohydrate or lipid reserves by RQ measurement.

Recent studies confirm that the low-glycaemic energy drink promotes utilisation of body fat as energy source and thus improves metabolic fat oxidation in comparison to other carbohydrates. Its the only energy drink to provide a sustained supply of energy in form of glucose, while at the same time supporting fat mobilization."

 

With this in mind now its important to note that the second you introduce a high GI substance, in any form whatsoever, whether gel, drink or solid food, you will immediately stop using your fat stores for any energy, and rely on the readily available glucose in your system.

 

Simply put, once you take in the high GI product you need to keep topping up regularly, you have no choice, or you will dip below your base energy levels and feel flat.

Combining a gel or additive WITH 32Gi will not give you the fat burning effect, HOWEVER and this is important, it will bring down the glycaemic load and this means that it will help the product taper for longer. As an example, and this is just an example, lets say you take a gel and it gives you 40 minutes of energy, usually you would need to keep taking in a gel every 35 minutes or so, not to miss the window feed. BUT if you are taking in 32Gi at the same time, it will extend that window period a little, it might give you 50 minutes or more, it all depends on how much of the carb is being consumed against the quantity of high GI carb in the gel.

So there is still a benefit taking both together.

With that said and a lot of our elite athletes using the product, we are seeing the majority of the athletes favouring, holding off any readily available glucose until they begin hitting their anaerobic threshold, at that stage they will tend to take in a gel, and this usually happens right towards the end of an event.

 

I hope this helps, we are going to be launching a gel soon which is aimed at giving you at least 80-90 minutes of energy, will keep you posted ;-)

 

all the best

M

[MDW]

There seems to be some confusion around 32Gi, I wrote this on another thread, I think it will help answer your question.

 

Firstly, I need to say that it does not require a lifestyle change to benefit from the product, its important to note that. A lifestyle change energy drinks aside, will benefit you in sport ;-).

 

32Gi is a low GI endurance energy drink, so whats most important is really the pre-race meal and during the race. You need to take in or start taking in the 32Gi prior to the event and its best taking in combination with a low GI meal.

 

With that said, 32Gi works like this, assuming you have take in 32Gi with a low GI meal, when you start exercising, it will utilise 2 sources of energy, the first is the readily available glucose of which there is a sufficient amount for the muscles but not a flood, the second thing is it will tap the fat stores for the balance.

 

"The 32Gi studies examined the effects on different parameters like e.g. plasma glucose and insulin levels, the content of free fatty acids in the blood,

as well as its influence on energy production from the body’s carbohydrate or lipid reserves by RQ measurement.

Recent studies confirm that the low-glycaemic energy drink promotes utilisation of body fat as an energy source and thus improves metabolic fat oxidation in comparison to other carbohydrates. Its the only energy drink to provide a sustained supply of energy in form of glucose, while at the same time supporting fat mobilization."

 

With this in mind now its important to note that the second you introduce a high GI substance, in any form whatsoever, whether gel, drink or solid food, you will immediately stop using your fat stores for any energy, and rely on the readily available glucose in your system.

 

Simply put, once you take in the high GI product you need to keep topping up regularly, you have no choice, or you will dip below your base energy levels and feel flat.

Combining a gel or additive WITH 32Gi will not give you the fat burning effect, HOWEVER and this is important, it will bring down the glycaemic load and this means that it will help the product taper for longer. As an example, and this is just an example, lets say you take a gel and it gives you 40 minutes of energy, usually you would need to keep taking in a gel every 35 minutes or so, not to miss the window feed. BUT if you are taking in 32Gi at the same time, it will extend that window period a little, it might give you 50 minutes or more, it all depends on how much of the carb is being consumed against the quantity of high GI carb in the gel.

So there is still a benefit taking both together.

With that said and a lot of our elite athletes using the product, we are seeing the majority of the athletes favouring, holding off any readily available glucose until they begin hitting their anaerobic threshold, at that stage they will tend to take in a gel, and this usually happens right towards the end of an event.

 

I hope this helps, we are going to be launching a gel soon which is aimed at giving you at least 80-90 minutes of energy, will keep you posted ;-)

 

all the best

M

[orbeaorca]

What would the GI of food have to to still sustain the fat burning effect? Say boiled potatoes?

[MDW]

Hi there it depends on the potato sweet potatoes are low GI but your plain White Potatoes which mash comes from is high GI. :-) so I would go with sweet but it still has a GI of around 48 or so try some quinoa it's lower and works well as a cereal pre race. Of course the lower the insulin release the better u will utilise your fat stores

Hope this helps all the best

Mark

[Grebel]

To all the Bicycling subscriber who just recieved their new issue via the post with the bulging wrapper, was you reaction the same as mine when I opened the wrapper to see what free goodies were included and the 32GI sample pack fell out?

 

What a rush... I went back in looking for the powerband and was very dissapointed to see a sunscreen sample instead

 

To make myself feel better I went out for waffles.

[AndreZA]

So they are trying to up the quality of the mag with free gifts. So now the magazine is worth R5.95.

[Ha Ha Kieran]

I got Bicycling the other day. What a load of ****!!! There are like 5 pages in the whole magazine, the rest is just advertising. Could have just got the classifieds out the Citizen

[SWM1]

Got mine too.

 

Mixed a 500ml bottle of it.

 

Was on a horrible buzz for the rest of the day.

 

Is it supposed to do that to you?

[Grebel]

Probably why Discovery "give it away" at a fraction of the normal price. That's the only reason I subscribed...

[Grebel]

Got mine too.

 

Mixed a 500ml bottle of it.

 

Was on a horrible buzz for the rest of the day.

 

Is it supposed to do that to you?

 

Probably because you weren't wearing your Powerband...? I haven't tried mine yet but thanks for the heads up I will test with caution