Cricket......

[DJ84]

Class is permanent also comes to mind - recent performances stand out because they are fresh in our memories but in a few years time, with context, very few would disagree is was a cricketing hero for SA.

 

Lets hope he doesn't come back a hater suurgat like DC

 

He now has an Irish passport and is playing in Great Britain,

if he wanted to im sure he could make the Irish team in a few years once he qualifies.

[milky4130]

 

 

Well then one of the best counties in the world are a bunch of idiots and they are paying him a massive salary to join.

We as Saffas are the only people that wouldn't want him in our team.

 

Stats don't lie,

only peoples opinions.

county cricket & cricket for your country, 2 different kettle of fish.

Lots of has beens get scooped up by the counties, even Ponting playing there.

Pressure is just too much for the country stage, more relaxed environment playing county cricket vs country cricket.

[DJ84]

As for how they will replace him,

Elgar to take the opener roll with Alviro

AB to take the captaincy and QDK to take the gloves as a number 6/7

[JGR]

As for how they will replace him,

Elgar to take the opener roll with Alviro

AB to take the captaincy and QDK to take the gloves as a number 6/7

Problem is AP position is not that secure - although he batted well in the first innings.

[DJ84]

county cricket & cricket for your country, 2 different kettle of fish.

Lots of has beens get scooped up by the counties, even Ponting playing there.

Pressure is just too much for the country stage, more relaxed environment playing county cricket vs country cricket.

 

Ponting never got scooped up,

he went and played there.

Smith was offered a massive contract and the option to end his International career,

small difference between the two.

 

As a captain,

he is the best the world has had for some time.

As an opener he is the best the world has had for some time.

Name one opening batsman who has consistently been in and around the top 10 other than Smith.

He is still right there as of today.

[DJ84]

Problem is AP position is not that secure - although he batted well in the first innings.

 

Agreed,

but doubt they will be too radical with changes.

[milky4130]

 

 

Ponting never got scooped up,

he went and played there.

Smith was offered a massive contract and the option to end his International career,

small difference between the two.

 

As a captain,

he is the best the world has had for some time.

As an opener he is the best the world has had for some time.

Name one opening batsman who has consistently been in and around the top 10 other than Smith.

He is still right there as of today.

lol nobody just goes & play county cricket, you need a contract.

I agree with all your points Smith "was" the best, past tense & that was my opinion before he retired.

Openers who were consistent Strauss when he played, Cook, bar the Ashes?

Edited March 4, 2014 by milky4130

[MTBeer]

and anyone who still wants him around is still living in the past & a bigger idiot!!!

well I guess I'm an idiot. You on the other hand.....?

GS stats season by season - stats don't lie. Please back up your claims that he is past it.

Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St 2001-02 (South Africa) 2 4 0 114 68 28.50 0 1 2 2002-03 (South Africa) 6 8 1 492 200 70.28 2 1 12 2003 (Bangladesh) 2 2 0 31 16 15.50 0 0 3 2003 (England) 5 9 0 714 277 79.33 2 1 3 2003-04 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 290 125* 58.00 1 1 1 2003-04 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 112 65 28.00 0 1 4 2003-04 (South Africa) 4 7 1 418 139 69.66 2 0 1 2004 (Sri Lanka) 2 4 0 179 74 44.75 0 2 0 2004-05 (India) 2 4 0 155 71 38.75 0 1 3 2004-05 (South Africa) 7 12 1 431 121 39.18 1 3 14 2004-05 (West Indies) 4 7 1 505 148 84.16 3 1 5 2005-06 (Australia) 4 8 0 167 39 20.87 0 0 8 2005-06 (South Africa) 5 9 0 283 68 31.44 0 2 3 2006-07 (South Africa) 6 12 0 394 94 32.83 0 4 6 2007-08 (Bangladesh) 2 3 0 304 232 101.33 1 1 4 2007-08 (India) 3 5 0 246 73 49.20 0 2 4 2007-08 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 246 133 61.50 1 0 2 2007-08 (South Africa) 5 8 0 311 147 38.87 1 1 8 2008 (England) 4 8 2 369 154* 61.50 2 0 9 2008-09 (Australia) 3 6 1 326 108 65.20 1 2 7 2008-09 (South Africa) 4 5 1 255 157 63.75 1 1 5 2009-10 (India) 2 3 0 30 20 10.00 0 0 1 2009-10 (South Africa) 4 7 0 427 183 61.00 2 1 7 2010 (West Indies) 3 6 0 371 132 61.83 1 2 2 2010-11 (South Africa) 3 5 0 143 62 28.60 0 1 3 2010-11 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 144 100 48.00 1 0 2 2011-12 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 282 115 56.40 1 2 6 2011-12 (South Africa) 5 9 2 303 101* 43.28 1 1 6 2012 (England) 3 5 0 272 131 54.40 1 2 6 2012-13 (Australia) 3 6 0 255 122 42.50 1 1 10 2012-13 (South Africa) 5 7 0 184 54 26.28 0 2 13 2013-14 (South Africa) 4 8 1 223 68 31.85 0 1 8 2013-14 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 281 234 93.66 1 0 0

[MTBeer]

well I guess I'm an idiot. You on the other hand.....?

GS stats season by season - stats don't lie. Please back up your claims that he is past it.

Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St 2001-02 (South Africa) 2 4 0 114 68 28.50 0 1 2 2002-03 (South Africa) 6 8 1 492 200 70.28 2 1 12 2003 (Bangladesh) 2 2 0 31 16 15.50 0 0 3 2003 (England) 5 9 0 714 277 79.33 2 1 3 2003-04 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 290 125* 58.00 1 1 1 2003-04 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 112 65 28.00 0 1 4 2003-04 (South Africa) 4 7 1 418 139 69.66 2 0 1 2004 (Sri Lanka) 2 4 0 179 74 44.75 0 2 0 2004-05 (India) 2 4 0 155 71 38.75 0 1 3 2004-05 (South Africa) 7 12 1 431 121 39.18 1 3 14 2004-05 (West Indies) 4 7 1 505 148 84.16 3 1 5 2005-06 (Australia) 4 8 0 167 39 20.87 0 0 8 2005-06 (South Africa) 5 9 0 283 68 31.44 0 2 3 2006-07 (South Africa) 6 12 0 394 94 32.83 0 4 6 2007-08 (Bangladesh) 2 3 0 304 232 101.33 1 1 4 2007-08 (India) 3 5 0 246 73 49.20 0 2 4 2007-08 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 246 133 61.50 1 0 2 2007-08 (South Africa) 5 8 0 311 147 38.87 1 1 8 2008 (England) 4 8 2 369 154* 61.50 2 0 9 2008-09 (Australia) 3 6 1 326 108 65.20 1 2 7 2008-09 (South Africa) 4 5 1 255 157 63.75 1 1 5 2009-10 (India) 2 3 0 30 20 10.00 0 0 1 2009-10 (South Africa) 4 7 0 427 183 61.00 2 1 7 2010 (West Indies) 3 6 0 371 132 61.83 1 2 2 2010-11 (South Africa) 3 5 0 143 62 28.60 0 1 3 2010-11 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 144 100 48.00 1 0 2 2011-12 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 282 115 56.40 1 2 6 2011-12 (South Africa) 5 9 2 303 101* 43.28 1 1 6 2012 (England) 3 5 0 272 131 54.40 1 2 6 2012-13 (Australia) 3 6 0 255 122 42.50 1 1 10 2012-13 (South Africa) 5 7 0 184 54 26.28 0 2 13 2013-14 (South Africa) 4 8 1 223 68 31.85 0 1 8 2013-14 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 281 234 93.66 1 0 0

oh **** that didn't come out right.

 

See stats here

 

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10283/t_Batting_by_Season.html

[Cellar]

and again this is to his character...he wanted people to cheer him on as he steps out to bat at his home ground.........

 

and perhaps it is a last ditch effort for himself to salvage this game and produce a mammoth innings...if its his last knock perhaps he will concentrate like crazy to not go out

 

I'm calling a single figure score again.

[DJ84]

well I guess I'm an idiot. You on the other hand.....?

GS stats season by season - stats don't lie. Please back up your claims that he is past it.

 

 

Nice stats those,

93 average just 4/5 months ago in a series.

Misses the 60 plus against India as well.

[Stretch]

oh **** that didn't come out right.

 

See stats here

 

http://cricketarchiv..._by_Season.html

 

i agree - in the last year he has got a double century 2 half centuries 2 knocks in the 40's (in 17 inns)

 

not his best...but not terrible either

 

I cant find fault with him as a player...maybe going through a bit of a patch...but still a masterclass.....but still a dick too

[milky4130]

well I guess I'm an idiot. You on the other hand.....?

GS stats season by season - stats don't lie. Please back up your claims that he is past it.

Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St 2001-02 (South Africa) 2 4 0 114 68 28.50 0 1 2 2002-03 (South Africa) 6 8 1 492 200 70.28 2 1 12 2003 (Bangladesh) 2 2 0 31 16 15.50 0 0 3 2003 (England) 5 9 0 714 277 79.33 2 1 3 2003-04 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 290 125* 58.00 1 1 1 2003-04 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 112 65 28.00 0 1 4 2003-04 (South Africa) 4 7 1 418 139 69.66 2 0 1 2004 (Sri Lanka) 2 4 0 179 74 44.75 0 2 0 2004-05 (India) 2 4 0 155 71 38.75 0 1 3 2004-05 (South Africa) 7 12 1 431 121 39.18 1 3 14 2004-05 (West Indies) 4 7 1 505 148 84.16 3 1 5 2005-06 (Australia) 4 8 0 167 39 20.87 0 0 8 2005-06 (South Africa) 5 9 0 283 68 31.44 0 2 3 2006-07 (South Africa) 6 12 0 394 94 32.83 0 4 6 2007-08 (Bangladesh) 2 3 0 304 232 101.33 1 1 4 2007-08 (India) 3 5 0 246 73 49.20 0 2 4 2007-08 (Pakistan) 2 4 0 246 133 61.50 1 0 2 2007-08 (South Africa) 5 8 0 311 147 38.87 1 1 8 2008 (England) 4 8 2 369 154* 61.50 2 0 9 2008-09 (Australia) 3 6 1 326 108 65.20 1 2 7 2008-09 (South Africa) 4 5 1 255 157 63.75 1 1 5 2009-10 (India) 2 3 0 30 20 10.00 0 0 1 2009-10 (South Africa) 4 7 0 427 183 61.00 2 1 7 2010 (West Indies) 3 6 0 371 132 61.83 1 2 2 2010-11 (South Africa) 3 5 0 143 62 28.60 0 1 3 2010-11 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 144 100 48.00 1 0 2 2011-12 (New Zealand) 3 6 1 282 115 56.40 1 2 6 2011-12 (South Africa) 5 9 2 303 101* 43.28 1 1 6 2012 (England) 3 5 0 272 131 54.40 1 2 6 2012-13 (Australia) 3 6 0 255 122 42.50 1 1 10 2012-13 (South Africa) 5 7 0 184 54 26.28 0 2 13 2013-14 (South Africa) 4 8 1 223 68 31.85 0 1 8 2013-14 (United Arab Emirates) 2 3 0 281 234 93.66 1 0 0

you just backed up my claim for me, not only his batting stats but his captaining style sucked as well which helped me formulate my opinion that he must go.

[MTBeer]

i agree - in the last year he has got a double century 2 half centuries 2 knocks in the 40's (in 17 inns)

 

not his best...but not terrible either

 

I cant find fault with him as a player...maybe going through a bit of a patch...but still a masterclass.....but still a dick too

I don't know him well enough to comment on his dickiness.

[MTBeer]

you just backed up my claim for me, not only his batting stats but his captaining style sucked as well which helped me formulate my opinion that he must go.

exactly which batting stats sucuked, compared to lets say Andrew Strauss (ave 40.9) who you mentioned earlier?

[milky4130]

exactly which batting stats sucuked, compared to lets say Andrew Strauss (ave 40.9) who you mentioned earlier?

Straus was mentioned in the context of " in & around the top 10" rankings, please don't misintrepet my comment to suit you.