The Ultimate 2x10 versus 3x10 Page!

[Eldron]

Thanks, appreciate it.

 

But you see you are not the only one with the engineers curse, i.e. being pedantic about everything and what not. That eventually manifests into compulsive non-conformism, as in my case... "Trends" erk be big time.. Show me a real problem, and solve it with a real solution, then I'm as happy as..

 

But about this whole granny blade being obsolete thing: If you're MTBing and not using granny-blade, you're going it wrong. Plain and simple..

 

Ah ye olde engineers curse - a terribler thing indeed!

 

Trends - please don't remind me... I was an early 29er adopter and thought I was well cool and well different - everyone used to mock my wagon wheels....now every frikkin weekend warrior and his uncle have one. Not cool. It's why I bought a steel 29er and made it SS. Anti trend baby - the only way to live

 

If it carries on like this a 3x10 26er will be the rebel bike to have!

[Eldron]

Have looked at your spreadsheet and although you are correct in theory, your conclusion of "REAL GEARS" cannot applied in this case as we don't change ratio's but gears.

 

To quote: " In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is"

 

Read my post again - I made note of the fact that we don't change to the next logical ratio - we move to the next gear so the "real gears" rationale doesn't apply. 3x10 give us 3 choices of range and 2x10 gives us 2 - overlaps are only a theoretical thing.

[Wyatt Earp]

Read my post again - I made note of the fact that we don't change to the next logical ratio - we move to the next gear so the "real gears" rationale doesn't apply. 3x10 give us 3 choices of range and 2x10 gives us 2 - overlaps are only a theoretical thing.

The saying "too spoilt for choice" comes to mind.

[TNT1]

The saying "too spoilt for choice" comes to mind.

 

SS and run wif no shoes...

[Wyatt Earp]

SS and run wif no shoes...

Hey, hey, respect brother

MJ Knighted me

[TNT1]

Hey, hey, respect brother

MJ Knighted me

 

Sir glorious leader?

[Wyatt Earp]

Sir glorious leader?

Just call me Duifid Curriesh

[Tumbleweed]

Just call me Duifid Curriesh

 

You're waco, dude…

[nolipoli]

I have always thought of this in terms of 4x4 vehicles that have a transfer box and a gearbox.

The transfer box in this case is the front which offers:

 

3x: Low/Mid/High (broad range mtb)

2x: Mid/High (Dirt Roadies)

2x +bash: Low/Mid (All-mountain/Freeride)

1x: Mid (Downhill/Dirtjump and crazy people)

 

I have three of these combinations on my Mtbs, but the "2x" is reserved for my road bike.

[jmaccelari]

You'll have to prise my granny gear from my cold, dead legs...

[Spark]

I have never heard of a 3*10. 3*9 yes. How uninformed can you be? Anyway ,harden up man.

[Wyatt Earp]

I have never heard of a 3*10. 3*9 yes. How uninformed can you be? Anyway ,harden up man.

As you said ,"how uninformed can you be"

[arendoog]

I rode Rust de winter this morning.It was 68km of 10km serious uphill[4x4 track]with serious loose gravel downhil ,10km of flat tar and anything in between .Man was i glad i had all them gears today.I would love to know if there was a single speed maniac amongst us

[Swift01]

I have been riding with a std 3x9 (11-32 cassette) except I took the granny gear off which made it a 2x9 on my training bike. On my "racing" bike I still run a 3x9. The reason is I like the full range. One day your riding a race with extreme amounts of hills and another you riding a much flatter course that requires a lot more speed. I can't affor to run a 2x10 and keep swapping out the chain rings at the front to suit a course. Last Sani I was watching some guys spinning like crazy as there were riding the smaller chain rings up front on their 2x10 setup, but when I asked why he didn't put the bigger ones up front he said he would never make the hills. We are not all pro's but we all share the passion for riding, and love to ride a hill rather than walk it, even if your riding 3km/hr. That's why for me the 3x9 setup covers all the rides I do.

I have now just change the gears on my training bike again. I am back to running a 3x9 again. 48/36/26 up front and 11-25 road bike cassette at the rear. While the final drive when in granny and the 25 at the back gives me almost the same as a std middle chain ring up front and the 32 at the back, I now have a harder top end. Definately not an easy bike to ride but great for training with. Did my first off road with it on Sat and it will take quite some time to get used to.

Guess everyone to themselves, as long as we are all enjoying it. I just hope they keep making 3x9 shifters etc, but sadly they seem to be only going the 2x10 route.

[Goodbadugly]

I have been riding with a std 3x9 (11-32 cassette) except I took the granny gear off which made it a 2x9 on my training bike. On my "racing" bike I still run a 3x9. The reason is I like the full range. One day your riding a race with extreme amounts of hills and another you riding a much flatter course that requires a lot more speed. I can't affor to run a 2x10 and keep swapping out the chain rings at the front to suit a course. Last Sani I was watching some guys spinning like crazy as there were riding the smaller chain rings up front on their 2x10 setup, but when I asked why he didn't put the bigger ones up front he said he would never make the hills. We are not all pro's but we all share the passion for riding, and love to ride a hill rather than walk it, even if your riding 3km/hr. That's why for me the 3x9 setup covers all the rides I do.

I have now just change the gears on my training bike again. I am back to running a 3x9 again. 48/36/26 up front and 11-25 road bike cassette at the rear. While the final drive when in granny and the 25 at the back gives me almost the same as a std middle chain ring up front and the 32 at the back, I now have a harder top end. Definately not an easy bike to ride but great for training with. Did my first off road with it on Sat and it will take quite some time to get used to.

Guess everyone to themselves, as long as we are all enjoying it. I just hope they keep making 3x9 shifters etc, but sadly they seem to be only going the 2x10 route.

So it boils down to the fact that if you want to ride EVERYTHING (hills, Crater cruise, 3-8 day stage races ultra marathons etc.), go for the 3X9/10? Unless you go by the name of Burry or Kevin.

[Wyatt Earp]

So it boils down to the fact that if you want to ride EVERYTHING (hills, Crater cruise, 3-8 day stage races ultra marathons etc.), go for the 3X9/10? Unless you go by the name of Burry or Kevin.

I love threads like this.

People trying to convince others what to do, people making great claims with heavy conviction.

It goes on for days and page after page, and then the conclusion as you have come to.

I reckon peeps just need to get on the bike and ride it, I would also like the 3X9 brigade to show me how much of the cassette they use.

When cyclists get to the point where they realise that there is no need to PEDAL the downhills, they might start understanding their gears.