Too much cardio can damage your heart!

[flymango]

:thumbup:

So true, but while we are on that topic, I get so de- moer in when a person who has a vacuum for a mouth and a toilet worthy of competing with an F650 blames it all on diabetes.

 

Human nature I guess. We are all confronted with adversity in some or other form at some stage or another. How we respond to that adversity is what defines our character. Either we chose to use it as an excuse, or we use it to motivate ourselves to become more resilient or better persons.

[Agteros]

So it is true that we have a finite number of heart beats, and should use it sparingly?

[Wyatt Earp]

Human nature I guess. We are all confronted with adversity in some or other form at some stage or another. How we respond to that adversity is what defines our character. Either we chose to use it as an excuse, or we use it to motivate ourselves to become more resilient or better persons.

 

I must say that my gripe is not with people that are not perfect, none of us are and those who are are sometimes a turn-off to me.

I quite like some meat on my woman to be honest.

It's those people who make no effort and complain about their appearance all the time whilst they scoff another box of don'ts that gets my goat.

 

*Edit *

A good friend of mine is doing this project, very good idea I think.

 

****Open plan office warning kids****

 

 

http://www.imperfectproject.co.za/

Edited June 1, 2012 by Dangle

[flymango]

I must say that my gripe is not with people that are not perfect, none of us are and those who are are sometimes a turn-off to me.

I quite like some meat on my woman to be honest.

It's those people who make no effort and complain about their appearance all the time whilst they scoff another box of don'ts that gets my goat.

 

*Edit *

A good friend of mine is doing this project, very good idea I think.

 

****Open plan office warning kids****

 

 

http://www.imperfectproject.co.za/

 

Interesting initiative. Lot's of scope for some cardio there, but I guess I should've added to my last post that we have an obvious and first choice to any adversity and that's acceptance by ourselves of our circumstance or condition.

 

Off for a couple of beers.

Edited June 1, 2012 by flymango

[RockCoach]

So, 12 minutes per week. That's less than 2 minute per day. Awesome.

 

So it is true that we have a finite number of heart beats, and should use it sparingly?

 

I did a calculation one day when I was bored. Assuming that an unfit person has a working heart rate of about 20 bpm more than a fit guy. The fit guy can do 2 hours of exercise at an average of 75% everyday for the rest of his life and still use 20% less beats over a lifetime.

[Wyatt Earp]

Interesting initiative. Lot's of scope for some cardio there, but I guess I should've added to my last post that we have an obvious and first choice to any adversity and that's acceptance by ourselves of our circumstance or condition.

 

Off for a couple of beers.

 

Have a Stella for me

[North Shore]

To quote my dad on this article, he's a double specialist in infectious disease and clinical pharmacology:

 

"This article is crap. Endurance athletes get changes to their hearts.

The data show this is a good thing, but more long term studies are

needed. Because it's still a bit of a grey area you will find crappy

papers claiming to show harm. It is hard to distinguish these normal

adaptations to intense exercise from certain forms of heart disease &

professional sports groups try to screen for this. Sudden death in

athletes is the result of underlying heart disease that is unrelated to

exercise in most if not all cases.

 

 

Keep on cycling"

['Dale]

I definitely damaged my heart this morning with my 4.5 hr ride...

 

 

 

 

 

NOT.

[Dirtbreath]

I was thinking about this whilst watching the tennis last night. There were a number of women who seem to carry excess weight. From the amount of training these ladies do I would think that it would be impossible to have any adipose tissue at all. Is it a case of them not eating properly or simply that being their body type?

 

My own imperfections are due to laziness and improper diet.

[Wyatt Earp]

I was thinking about this whilst watching the tennis last night. There were a number of women who seem to carry excess weight. From the amount of training these ladies do I would think that it would be impossible to have any adipose tissue at all. Is it a case of them not eating properly or simply that being their body type?

 

My own imperfections are due to laziness and improper diet.

To be quite honest, I don't think our bodies were made to be at an all time low body fat all the time.

[majestic]

So let us add some more fire to the subject. Check this article out:

 

http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/04/extreme-workouts-when-exercise-does-more-harm-than-good/?iid=hl-main-lede

[Seeker911]

Triathletes are a heartless bunch! need to do that interval... need to push that gear... all very serious stuff!!!

 

 

Nah I think not. You should pitch up one day at one of the races either 5150 or one of the Germies races. Sure there's some serious folks but most are just very normal very friendly folk who like a bit of sweat and fun in the sun oh yes and lets not forget the braai and beers afterwards.

[Seeker911]

To quote my dad on this article, he's a double specialist in infectious disease and clinical pharmacology:

 

"This article is crap. Endurance athletes get changes to their hearts.

The data show this is a good thing, but more long term studies are

needed. Because it's still a bit of a grey area you will find crappy

papers claiming to show harm. It is hard to distinguish these normal

adaptations to intense exercise from certain forms of heart disease &

professional sports groups try to screen for this. Sudden death in

athletes is the result of underlying heart disease that is unrelated to

exercise in most if not all cases.

 

 

Keep on cycling"

 

I just gotta agree here. Nice quote.

[Dirtbreath]

 

To be quite honest, I don't think our bodies were made to be at an all time low body fat all the time.

 

I hear you. But....

 

Djokovic had some form of food intolerance which he sorted out and lost weight which pushed up his energy levels whereafter he won all his grand slams and has become no 1 mens player.

 

Apart from obvious different morphologies (serena vs maria as an eg) is it not possible that some of these tennis players might be missing a key ingredient in performance improvement. This all assuming that losing a few kilos round the waist would assist in performance improvement.

 

I think I could be a prime guinea pig for some sort of experiment. I may have some value to science.

[BigGuy]

So it is true that we have a finite number of heart beats, and should use it sparingly?

Yes. The heart is pre-programmed to only beat until you die.

[Greg78]

To quote my dad on this article, he's a double specialist in infectious disease and clinical pharmacology:

 

"This article is crap. Endurance athletes get changes to their hearts.

The data show this is a good thing, but more long term studies are

needed. Because it's still a bit of a grey area you will find crappy

papers claiming to show harm. It is hard to distinguish these normal

adaptations to intense exercise from certain forms of heart disease &

professional sports groups try to screen for this. Sudden death in

athletes is the result of underlying heart disease that is unrelated to

exercise in most if not all cases.

 

 

Keep on cycling"

 

I agree with your dad, being a clinical researcher myself. The information age we live in is rife with theories and "research" proving this or disproving that - often linked to some product to be sold. Just bare in mind that the natural health industry has it's place certainly (of which Dr, Mercola is one of the key opinion leaders), though it is an industry none the less, less regulated than traditional pharmaceuticals I must add. If you think eating pumpkin seeds will make you climb up hills faster, fine eat bags of the stuff. If you are concerned about the issues raised by Mercola, balance his opinion with persons in the opposite camp, though stick to reputable Journals. I don't specialize in Cardiology so let me not comment further, except to say, get the opinion of leading cardiologists on this matter as well.

 

I take my Omega three's and sixes plus more Vit C in winter, though when I am sick, no hesitation in taking antibiotics - there is clinical evidence for there effectiveness.

 

BTW... I get better at climbing hills, by climbing more hills. Perspective is important here I believe, Mercola is not the only opinion on this matter, and in fact many of his views are vehemently opposed.