fandacious Posted October 15, 2012 Share Okay, you know it's over when Phil dumps you... http://www.velonatio...took-drugs.aspx "He can call up Barack Obama, he has his cellphone number on his cellphone."Well that answers what happened to the federal investigation... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 15, 2012 Share "The Four Corners investigation broadcast testimony taken during the SCA Promotions case, which ran between 2004 and 2006, and dealt with that insurance company’s refusal to pay out a $5 million bonus due to Armstrong when he won his sixth Tour. It argued that there was strong reason to believe that he had doped; ultimately, that became a moot point because the original contract didn’t include stipulations about having to win the race clean. " HAHAHA - who were there bright spark lawyers that wrote up that contract?? Edited October 15, 2012 by fandacious Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted October 15, 2012 Share "The Four Corners investigation broadcast testimony taken during the SCA Promotions case, which ran between 2004 and 2006, and dealt with that insurance company’s refusal to pay out a $5 million bonus due to Armstrong when he won his sixth Tour. It argued that there was strong reason to believe that he had doped; ultimately, that became a moot point because the original contract didn’t include stipulations about having to win the race clean. " HAHAHA - who were there bright spark lawyers that wrote up that contract?? Was that really the technicality that got them to pay the bonus? That would have been eaten up by the media Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted October 15, 2012 Share This has been a healthy thread throughout the day! Does non of you buggers work? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 15, 2012 Share This has been a healthy thread throughout the day! Does non of you buggers work? Dude, I was most probably halfway through the workday by the time you got up. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share This has been a healthy thread throughout the day! Does non of you buggers work? We use rat muti! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted October 15, 2012 Share We use rat muti! I am beginning to think you do Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
petatodd Posted October 15, 2012 Share bring back DuffieldAt last! Something I can agree with you on. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
petatodd Posted October 15, 2012 Share This has been a healthy thread throughout the day! Does non of you buggers work? Walk and chew gum? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted October 15, 2012 Share Walk and chew gum? Ek verstaan nie oom? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted October 15, 2012 Share "The Four Corners investigation broadcast testimony taken during the SCA Promotions case, which ran between 2004 and 2006, and dealt with that insurance company’s refusal to pay out a $5 million bonus due to Armstrong when he won his sixth Tour. It argued that there was strong reason to believe that he had doped; ultimately, that became a moot point because the original contract didn’t include stipulations about having to win the race clean. " HAHAHA - who were there bright spark lawyers that wrote up that contract?? If he gets stripped of his titles SCA Promotions will be able to claim back the $5 million plus the $2.5 in legal fees. No title = No bonus. It seems that this is their intent. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 15, 2012 Share Love the payline! Surreal clip.Cool. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted October 15, 2012 Share Americans still believe - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/others/cycling-america-refuses-to-accept-a-heros-downfall-8210381.html?origin=internalSearch Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted October 15, 2012 Share Interesting: 10 key questions over the Lance Armstrong affairCan governing bodies be trusted to be self-policing?The evidence suggests not. Governing bodies are conservative and self-protective of their sport. Usada's persistence in pursuing Armstrong suggests independent scrutiny of fundamental moral and financial issues is overdue. Usada's Armstrong file is in the hands of UCI lawyers, said UCI president Pat McQuaid on Friday.(Perhaps some insight into USADA motives....? Position self to become the policeman of the other bodies granting the CEO much more power than he previouslyhad...)Have Bradley Wiggins, and Team Sky, been compromised?Undoubtedly. While the integrity of Wiggins and Dave Brailsford, director of the Tour de France-winning team, is unchallengeable, Sky's "zero tolerance" stance on drugs is open to question. Directeur Sportif Sean Yates, a close associate of Armstrong, says he knew nothing about the drug cheat's activities. How could he have understood so little?Hmmmm,Wiggo and Froome not exactly there and this year the performance goes up two notches.....watching this one wit suspicion but perhaps British Cycling and politicians will be more keen any doping allegations under control. Will the US attorney's investigation be renewed?Federal prosecutors are under pressure to revive the process, terminated in February. A separate inquiry is being pursued by the Department of Justice. This was prompted by a lawsuit, filed by former team-mate Floyd Landis, which alleged Armstrong used public money to fund a doping programme.Hmmm suspect action from the FL. Depends if Lance used the team budget or his salary. Salary is not public money....Will Armstrong be stripped of his Olympic medal?Yes, if the IOC value consistency and credibility. They have already stripped Tyler Hamilton, Armstrong's former team-mate, of the gold medal won in 2004. No, if they choose strictly to observe the eight-year statute of limitations, stipulated in the world anti-doping code. Armstrong won his bronze in 2000. Probably What are the precedents for prosecuting an athlete for perjury?Marion Jones's fall from grace, after winning five medals in Sydney, was completed when she admitted lying to a jury about her use of drugs. She was convicted of perjury, and sentenced to six months in prison in 2008.Marion, confessed to perjury,.......thus LA hasn't. He would need to be found guilty Are the UCI still taking legal action against Paul Kimmage?The defamation case, brought against the former cyclist, turned campaigning journalist, is still due to be heard in the Swiss district court on 12 December. Donations to Kimmage's defence fund, which are more than £37,000, can be made through www.nyvelocity.com.Probably, no reason not too. AS long as they can discredit kimmage, they can discredit the USADA report or consider it not admissable for whatever legal reason their lawyer come up with. Will new winners of the seven tainted Tours de France be announced?No, according to director Christian Prudhomme, whose plans to promote the centenary edition of the Tour, beyond its European heartland, are in tatters. He had little option – 20 of the 21 podium places between 1999 and 2005 were filled by riders associated with doping.No probably not. What are the implications for other sports?Possibly profound. Italian football endured an EPO scandal in the late Nineties. Eufemiano Fuentes, the Spanish doctor exposed in cycling's Operacion Puerto, claims he also doped footballers and tennis players. Luis Garcia del Moral, banned for life for links to Armstrong, insists he was "medical advisor" to Barcelona and Valencia.Precedent is now set, get enough witnesses together and you can acheive anything, even knock Roger Federer off the #1 ATP spot while smashing your racquet against the court or umpires chair.Will cycling's status as a boom sport be affected?Probably not. The timing of the announcement of British cycling's success, in attracting a million new participants, was unfortunate, but drug controversies can be detached, at grassroots level, from the benefits of a healthy outdoor activity.No, cycling is becoming more than a boom sport, its becoming viable, recognised and encouraged transport.What about the Armstrong apologists?They must live with their consciences. The most poignant case involves British TV commentator Phil Liggett. Many feel he compromised himself earlier this year with a bizarre pro-Armstrong, anti-Usada rant on South African radio, which quickly went viral.As america will demonstrate, they stick to their own kind and the greater good will outweigh those ramblings of those pesky Europeans and their little cry baby American wannbee's. New American Slogan : FL belongs in France, Vive la Lance. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombeej Posted October 15, 2012 Share "The Secret Race" is now in line to win the 'Sports Book of the Year' award now. What are the odds he's going to make more money as a writer than he ever did as a pro cyclist.... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted October 15, 2012 Share His lawyers are clearly smarter than Lance's lawyers Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/117304-lance-armstrong-banned-and-stripped-of-tdf-titles/page/137/#findComment-1813928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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