TNT1 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Eish you got me i'm lost for words o fearless gangster... Ya, me too. The Mayan's will have to be right before a make up with that oke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 17, 2012 Share Can't be bothered to find the names but there's a coupleDoubt that, but yeah don't bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalton Posted October 17, 2012 Share Can you name one person on the Hub that believe's he is innocent.cptmayhem - "IF he did dope" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathrix Posted October 17, 2012 Share Published in The Times on 16 Oct 2012 http://www.zapiro.com/Cartoons/m_121016tt.jpg 121016tt - Freefall record - Lance Armstrong versus Felix Baumgartner Description & Background Felix Baumgartner is an Austrian skydiver, daredevil and BASE jumper. On 14 October 2012, he set the world record for skydiving an estimated 39 kilometres, reaching an estimated speed of 1,342 kilometres per hour, or Mach 1.24. Lance Armstrong, the legend of cycling and seven times winner of the Tour de France cycling race, has been discovered to be “serial drug cheat” of the worst kind by the US Anti-doping Agency (Usada).. Once a hero and role model is now in "freefall". Zapiro's cartoon compares the two. People in the cartoon Felix Baumgartner / Lance Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted October 17, 2012 Share South Africa has a communist party more than 20yrs after the rest of the world gave it up as a bad job; thoroughly discredited. They still sing the songs and spout the slogans; and explain their situation through conspiracy theories - and to the outside world it looks ridiculous. LA & everything he built is disappearing beneath a righteous tsunami of evidence, but the South African fan club remains - nominated for the 2012 Ostrich Award. FYI there are many communist parties out there besides RSADon't generalise about something you obviously know nothing about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nishiki Posted October 17, 2012 Share Yeha, but the thing is I still support him. Regardless of what happened, the fact is that the whole peloton was and still is dirty. Has been for ages. Even though he may have been a mastermind in terms of doping in his particular team (which I'm still not 100% convinced of, despite all the "witness testimonies" given by guys who have an axe to grind or something to gain by testifying against, even if it is just a 6 month ban the question has to be asked what would have happened had they not testified) Back to t though - even though he may have been a mastermind, it is still just ONE TEAM. He cannot be viewed as the patriarch of the whole doping culture. Fact is, his teams were not the only ones doping. So, by extension, the feats he achieved on the bike are still worthy of attention. IF he did dope. But heck, short of admittance, we'll never know the full truth. There has been too much sensationalism, too much "witch hunting" and too much posturing for it to be 100% definitive. So basically you're happy to support a cheating liar, regardless of what happened? Wow. petatodd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 17, 2012 Share Can you name one person on the Hub that believe's he is innocent. There is one, but he's so annoying, we don't mention his name... petatodd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted October 17, 2012 Share Ya, me too. The Mayan's will have to be right before a make up with that oke. Never say never boet, life's to short.I see the day we all get together for a nice hubbers/muffins/gangsters/clubbers/daters/friendzoners mtb ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 17, 2012 Share There is one, but he's so annoying, we don't mention his name... Ya, we'd sooner see your bum pic than have that inflicted on us. I assume he's actually a double poster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted October 17, 2012 Share So basically you're happy to support a cheating liar, regardless of what happened? Wow. Who did you vote for in 94...or the last elections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Never say never boet, life's to short. I didn't, in fact, say never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 17, 2012 Share Ya, we'd sooner see your bum pic than have that inflicted on us. I assume he's actually a double poster? Be careful what you wish for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLoCo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Nike terminated with LA, but will maintain support of Livestrong.....nicely played by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeTurbo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Let me salmon here: I still support him (without going through 147 pages). Dope or no dope, he was/is still a supreme cyclist. Maybe a little less stuff in his body (if!) would've made him come second or third. Nevertheless he would've still been consistently better than most. Two, he's done more good than he has bad. Even if. Three, if it's proven that this McCarthyesque witchhunt was off track, there'll never be adequate repair. A short paragraph on page 16, and nothing more. Whereas a life has been pretty much destroyed. The problem with modern media - the internet and social pages - is that opinions rule over facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 17, 2012 Share Let me salmon here: I still support him (without going through 147 pages). Dope or no dope, he was/is still a supreme cyclist. Maybe a little less stuff in his body (if!) would've made him come second or third. Nevertheless he would've still been consistently better than most. Two, he's done more good than he has bad. Even if. Three, if it's proven that this McCarthyesque witchhunt was off track, there'll never be adequate repair. A short paragraph on page 16, and nothing more. Whereas a life has been pretty much destroyed. The problem with modern media - the internet and social pages - is that opinions rule over facts. Salmon? You a Bike Snob fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groadie Posted October 17, 2012 Share Lance was a fighter - but he's rolled over like a pussy on this one. I've posted a story on it.....http://smoothknobblies.blogspot.com/2012/10/its-all-about-drugs-cycling-without.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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