Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Red Hill might be an option... hold thumbs we can get the traffic permission. Keep us updated, Zilla.You're clearly in the know. Cool!
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 The problem with those is it falls under Boland, and not WPCA, so permissions etc are a problem, see above post for Red Hill. That is decent enough. Yip, Red Hill is a beautiful climb.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Darren Lill won by himself... That said nothing is impossible... Yeah, what a rider.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Geez, I'm already scheduled for work in JHB on the Worcester race date.
NeverEnder Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 The money is NOT ALOT when you consider one tubular tire can be over R1000. One Dura ace Cassette is more... you spend thousands on carbon bikes, Shoes are thousands, and carbon bottle cages the list goes on... Have some perspective, and have some gratitude for the people that are working all year to make sure you have an event to take your shiny bike to the start line for. Ask how much a MTB race entry fee is? I remember paying close on R350 for ONE event - the Gravel Travel, Only 75km, one day... I completely agree with iCycling...why have a hill climb 100km away from everyone? and yes maybe the ascent is only 75m but it's as hard as you ride it, hell a flat TT for 6km can be murder. Just to clarify - the focus of my "gripe" was not primarily on the money aspect. I also find it amusing if there is this big forum war about some entry increasing from R150 to R200; and then the next day they spend thousands on bling bike equipment without batting a eye lid. My comment is more about offering more challenging (and more varied) races as part of the league. If you want to include a hill climb - at least make it a climb of a few kilometers in length to suite climbers. I like the idea of Bainskloof; or even that climb to the pump station in Gordonsbay. I am also not against a circuit race - but having the league decided on 3 x relatively short & flat races & 2 x one hour crits is relatively one dimensional, don't you think? Why must the spring league be suited only to sprinters? 1. How about replacing one circuit race with a longer (130km +) road race. (Like the 1-tonner; I know there is logistics but can a plan not be made?)2. Make the hill climb a real challenge and utilize the great mountain passes we have in the Western Cape. (And please don't start carbon footprint arguments - us living in the Boland must commute to Cape Town in summer)3. There is still a criterion & the flatter road races for the sprinters This will give opportunities for all specialties and the GC contender is the best all rounder - as it should be! (With the points system losing time in one discipline need not be the end of the competition) Many of us saw with the Mzunduzi how unprepared we are for long tough races after our spring league. League is supposed to be a stepping stone to a next level is it not? Tiny K 1
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 My comment is more about offering more challenging (and more varied) races as part of the league. If you want to include a hill climb - at least make it a climb of a few kilometers in length to suite climbers. I like the idea of Bainskloof; or even that climb to the pump station in Gordonsbay. I am also not against a circuit race - but having the league decided on 3 x relatively short & flat races & 2 x one hour crits is relatively one dimensional, don't you think? Why must the spring league be suited only to sprinters? 1. How about replacing one circuit race with a longer (130km +) road race. (Like the 1-tonner; I know there is logistics but can a plan not be made?)2. Make the hill climb a real challenge and utilize the great mountain passes we have in the Western Cape. (And please don't start carbon footprint arguments - us living in the Boland must commute to Cape Town in summer)3. There is still a criterion & the flatter road races for the sprinters I like your reasoning, Neverender.Especially creating good opportunity for the climbers to rule as well as the riders with big legs.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) @ Zilla, I appreciate all the planning, logistical challenges etc that goes with organising a League racing system.Eish! Some more feedback to the upcoming Spring League:RE the end September 3 day event...Personally, I don't have that kind of time, energy and space available to commit.It is so much easier to commit to one event at a time.I am sure this would apply to others as well. Let me wait for more details to follow. Edited July 26, 2012 by ' Dale
nuge Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Red Hill might be an option... hold thumbs we can get the traffic permission.that's what I heard from someone close to the organisers - early days, but here's hoping.
AuctionLamb Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I like the racing with PPA events...this is how I got my wife into cycling. While I was racing she hit's the short route. It is a win-win situation...the league gives the PPA races a bit more entries than normal.
Zac.A Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I do too..and did the same...but there are not enough events on the PPA calendar to use - Only three and those will be used Just wrt to Klein Joostenberg,Aren't the routes 88 and 58km respectively? I know U14's can race up to 60 and U16's to 80 so it shouldn't be a problem.And at the Tour de Worcester there isn't an U14 cat because the race is over 60km, don't see why the U16's, Juniors, U23's, Elites, Vets, Ladies and Masters shouldn't be able to race because one age group can't? Unless I'm mistaken about the distances.
MTB_Roadie Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 As long as these events happen over weekends it is fine...as I work during the week and I am sure most of the others do to. I don't mind the amount of races, I raced STARS last season, basically enetering the racing scene, and I enjoyed it. Moving up to Elites this season as planned, however Red Hill and all these places sounds like a good idea but consider the following, is there enough parking for all the cars? What time duration does it take for a Hill Climb to finish for all the riders? Also people will be travelling from all over CT...Bainskloof sounds cool, but then again, where will everyone park, try explain to cars they can't drive from Ceres via Bainskloof to Wellington, they will need to drive all the way around...and all these things. They could always have left out the 2 circuit races, but this also makes it fun, as I am sure it will suit a different rider.....same with the 1 hour crit, where it is riding smart that will matter and ofcourse packing your cavendish legs. It is a pity about Cycle Lab withdrawing, but hopefully they will give us prize money then as I wasnt even able to buy a stupid light with my R100 voucher that I had won... 'Dale, looking forward to seeing you race, it has been a long time coming...just get Tiny_K to join me now in Elites.
AuctionLamb Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 As long as these events happen over weekends it is fine...as I work during the week and I am sure most of the others do to. I don't mind the amount of races, I raced STARS last season, basically enetering the racing scene, and I enjoyed it. Moving up to Elites this season as planned, however Red Hill and all these places sounds like a good idea but consider the following, is there enough parking for all the cars? What time duration does it take for a Hill Climb to finish for all the riders? Also people will be travelling from all over CT...Bainskloof sounds cool, but then again, where will everyone park, try explain to cars they can't drive from Ceres via Bainskloof to Wellington, they will need to drive all the way around...and all these things. They could always have left out the 2 circuit races, but this also makes it fun, as I am sure it will suit a different rider.....same with the 1 hour crit, where it is riding smart that will matter and ofcourse packing your cavendish legs. It is a pity about Cycle Lab withdrawing, but hopefully they will give us prize money then as I wasnt even able to buy a stupid light with my R100 voucher that I had won... 'Dale, looking forward to seeing you race, it has been a long time coming...just get Tiny_K to join me now in Elites. Yip...easy to slate the Lab but would like to see the other hubbers cycle shops contributing to cycling and racing. Most other bike shops would rather stick money in their pockets and not contributing to development/cycling in general.
Jaco-fiets Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I think Eulogy and the team did a great job! Tiny K 1
andydude Posted July 27, 2012 Author Posted July 27, 2012 can someone send me the entry forms? Not out yet. They are still finalising everything.
Zac.A Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Guys, we've got 3 road races, a hill climb and 1 or 2 crits.Why not change 1 of the crits to a proper, flat TT? Would be cool to have something like that, then there's a nice variety.
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