Cleat replacement blues?

[SwissVan]

 

Replacing bike shoe cleats ranks as the worst possible job in regards to bike maintenance in my book?.

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1. Trying to install the new cleat in the exact same position as before, despite efforts to mark the old position and install new ones IAW these marks,  the cleats never ever end up in the same position, well not until you have repeated the process a few times.

2. Carbon soles that are not conducive to gripping the cleat, i.e. the cleat moves easily while tightening the mounting screws, or when checking if the cleat position is correct by clipping in / out if not tightened ?Blarry Tight?, usually a few inch lbs tighter than it takes to damage the screw head.

What I wish for:

Look Keo Cleat screws (all 3) that can be tightened while the shoe is clipped into the pedal.

So who has a fool proof system to replace / adjust cleats, Look Keo in particular, must be suitable for a Type A human?

[gummibear]

i have just gone through this and i am still batling to find the right cleat poss as i changed shoes and also changed the brand.

[veyron.]

Speak to Mr LOOK im sure he can help you out. I cant help much because when i change mine i just put them were ever feels right!

[The Saint]

Swiss also just replaced my shoes and viola what do you know...exactly the same problem as what you have.

 

So sorry no suggestions from my side but I will be watching this to see if somebody has an easier way

[Sabre484]

Can't help you there...Sorry

[Canaris]

Two solutions, both don't work though,

 

 

 

first look cleats now come with cleat position stickers which you place around the old cleat before removing them. Then all you do is put the new cleat in the remaining hole. In theory of course.....

 

 

 

Secondly, use a wax crayon or the likes to draw the outline of the old cleat position. THE theory is the same as the above idea and is just as tricky to get right.

 

 

 

Lastly, for those who love to battle, many of the top shoes have position "tuning" calibration markings on the soles. try use them to help.

 

 

 

On tightening of the screws try to tighten them a little each time, rotating from the front one in an anti clockwise direction (or clockwise as you please). Tightening one at a time in one go is not a good idea.

[Canaris]

failing all that take them to a LBS and make it their problem.

[Mr LOOK]

Hi guys, if you guys use Keo's it should be easy. LOOK call it the "memory clip". The Memory Clip memorizes the exact position of your cleat, so every

time you replace your cleat, it goes back in the exact same

location.During cleat replacement, you first remove the cleat without

removing the memory clip. Then, you re-install the new cleat on top of

the memory clip.

 

 

Shoes compatible with the Memory

Clip in 2008 :

 

CANNONDALE (high range)

? CHAIN (carbon sole)

? DIADORA (carbon sole)

? DMT (carbon sole)

? GAERNE (carbon sole)

? NORTHWAVE (carbon sole 08)

? SIDI (entire range)

 

You guys will find that there is a thin groove between the three triangular bolts...then just follow the instructions supplied with Keo cleats. Really easy....and it works.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Minion]

 

Secondly' date=' use a wax crayon or the likes to draw the outline of the old cleat position.[/quote']

 

Just don't use tippex. It seeps under the cleat and makes a big mess...this also makes it impossible to see where the cleat was .

Of course you find this out only after you've taken the cleat off .

 

I've found that using some masking tape to hold the cleat while tightening the screws helps a bit (it certainly removes the feeling that you need three hands to do the job properly). Just make sure you tighten it like a car tyre - go round tightening each screw a little bit, like Konafan said. Then bring out the gorilla strength for the final bit.

 

[Minion]

 

Shoes compatible with the Memory

Clip in 2008 :

 

CANNONDALE (high range)

? CHAIN (carbon sole)

? DIADORA (carbon sole)

? DMT (carbon sole)

? GAERNE (carbon sole)

? NORTHWAVE (carbon sole 08)

? SIDI (entire range)

When replacing my cleat I saw the memory clip info on the packaging and thought "Hey, what a great idea!".

I then looked on the bottom of my Specialized's and suffered a crushing disappointment

 

[Mr LOOK]

 

 

2. Carbon soles that are not conducive to gripping the cleat, i.e. the cleat moves easily while tightening the mounting screws, or when checking if the cleat position is correct by clipping in / out if not tightened ?Blarry Tight?, usually a few inch lbs tighter than it takes to damage the screw head.

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The new K?o Grip cleat is an anti-slip cleat, which won't slip on your sole, as well as on the ground. It is safer as well as being compatible with the entire K?o range. The TPU pieces helps to reduce the chances of slipping while walking. They come supplied with all new 2008 Keo pedals. (Ex. Keo Easy) If you are one of the lucky one purchasing a pair of 2008 pedals.....just check your box. They are also available to buy separate, and retails for around R170....pricier than the normal ones...but well worth it. Check with your LBS.

 

 

[SwissVan]

 

Thanks MR LOOK but that does not help me and my Specialized shoes.

 

KONA, yep the gradual and cross screw tightening procedure is spot on and the only way to tighten them properly. I also trace the cleat position with a permanent RED marker once I am satisfied it is in the correct position for the next time I have to change them. This usually works but this time the red mark is not correct cause I moved my cleats back last year sometime and did not "update" the new position

 

The shoes are the main culprit due to the carbon sole which even with the "specialized" textured surface in the cleat area allows the cleats to slip around quite easily.

 

My problem actually started when both cleats screws loosend up enough to allow the cleats to slip... Nail varnish is not a long term thread lock.

 

So now what?? Well decided that seeing the cleats are off now I may as well put new ones one, so waiting for these to arrive PLUS also ordered some screw grade locktite for the screws. 

[Mr LOOK]

Try the Keo Grip's

[Mr LOOK]

 

[madmarc]

With my Sidi's i got 2 nonslip (sandpaper) stickers shaped to be stuck on the shoe sole before mounting the cleat. This solves the problem 100%. the new memory cleat is awsome once you have it installed for future changes (me thinks cyclelab cleat putter onner @ R150.00 a time better start looking for a new job) In fact if i had shoes without memory cleat slots i would drill and cut them in myself. You can buy spare shoe nuts and modify them to fit under the inner sole - problem solved

[FanieFiets]

moenie sukkel nie.

 

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