Spinnekop Posted October 3, 2012 Share Don't know if it's the 2nd most watched sport in the world..(if i had my way it will be the only sport to watch), if so why does supersport hardly showcase cycling..? I have to miss out time and time again due to not "showing" or a program like (basketball/tennis/golf/swimming/gymnastics) arent finished yet. Whish we had someone on the inside of supersport! $$$$$.....it cost loads more to get the rights for cycling races than to get a rerun of 3 month's back Springbok loss...... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 3, 2012 Share Come again? ex phonak rider... south african pro Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 3, 2012 Share Ask Tyler how to supply dop to South Africa... . Don't need Tyler for that, S.A. breweries are doing a great job with those quarts. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted October 3, 2012 Share Easy: Why did you do it? Don't give me the crap about how you needed to in order to be competitive etc....that is just bullsh!t. Just tell me why you did it I'm not into excuses, i just want an answer! I'd respect him more if he just upped and said: I did it because i wanted to win, stand on the top steps, get the girls and get the cash. That's more believable! Spouting **** about how and who and when is all good and well, but it's all just another screen propagated to paint himself as a victim. He was most certainly not a victim - the innocent guys in Festina were victims, guys spat out of ProTour teams in the 90s for not taking PEDs were victims, brilliant cyclists with impressive physical scores and abundant natural talent, who constantly finished outside of time limits are victims. No more crap, man. Why did you do it? That's my question. Edited October 3, 2012 by Chro Mo Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 3, 2012 Share Easy: Why did you do it? Don't give me the crap about how you needed to in order to be competitive etc....that is just bullsh!t. Just tell me why you did it I'm not into excuses, i just want an answer! I'd respect him more if he just upped and said: I did it because i wanted to win, stand on the top steps, get the girls and get the cash. That's more believable! Spouting **** about how and who and when is all good and well, but it's all just another screen propagated to paint himself as a victim. He was most certainly not a victim - the innocent guys in Festina were victims, guys spat out of ProTour teams in the 90s for not taking PEDs were victims, brilliant cyclists with impressive physical scores and abundant natural talent, who constantly finished outside of time limits are victims. No more crao, man. Why did you do it? That's my question. read the book Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted October 3, 2012 Share Not that I am an eggspurt ... Some of these dopers / liars / cheats seem to be doing very well with books etc when indeed they should be ostracised. Although David Millar honest approach is a bit more redeeming. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 3, 2012 Share ex phonak rider... south african pro Ah. I take it he and George have different perceptions of the pro ranks overseas? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 3, 2012 Share Ah. I take it he and George have different perceptions of the pro ranks overseas? ask latrinus emmer... there was a gag order involved... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted October 3, 2012 Share Easy: Why did you do it? Don't give me the crap about how you needed to in order to be competitive etc....that is just bullsh!t. Just tell me why you did it I'm not into excuses, i just want an answer! I'd respect him more if he just upped and said: I did it because i wanted to win, stand on the top steps, get the girls and get the cash. That's more believable! Spouting **** about how and who and when is all good and well, but it's all just another screen propagated to paint himself as a victim. He was most certainly not a victim - the innocent guys in Festina were victims, guys spat out of ProTour teams in the 90s for not taking PEDs were victims, brilliant cyclists with impressive physical scores and abundant natural talent, who constantly finished outside of time limits are victims. No more crap, man. Why did you do it? That's my question. Read the book! Edit: Sorry, that has already been posted Edited October 3, 2012 by TimW Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Not that I am an eggspurt ... Some of these dopers / liars / cheats seem to be doing very well with books etc when indeed they should be ostracised. Although David Millar honest approach is a bit more redeeming. No offence at you particularly, but what a quaint South African attitude that is. Very provincial and unenlightened. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetapson Posted October 3, 2012 Share Is there any likelihood that cycling (pro-sport?) will ever be clean..? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Posted October 3, 2012 Share Is there any likelihood that cycling (pro-sport?) will ever be clean..? Don't need Tyler to answer that..... NO!!!! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetapson Posted October 3, 2012 Share Don't need Tyler to answer that..... NO!!!!Exactly. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbpa Posted October 3, 2012 Share i would like to know daniel coyles thoughts as he has been was the author for amrstrong tour de force and now hamiltons secret race. 2 quite different sides, Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted October 3, 2012 Share No offence at you particularly, but what a quaint South African attitude that is. Very provincial and unenlightened. How so Oh Oracle? my issue is a simply a moral one. These guys cheated and lied about it, now they coining it from 'tell all' books. At least David Millar is still in the sport, and never tried to deny anything, and is doing what he can to move things forward. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1800992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 3, 2012 Share How so Oh Oracle? No need to be snide. It's like has been mentioned several times about how fans view the sport in Europe. As in, as far as doping goes, they don't give a ****. It's a sporting thing, not a moral thing. I see this in the way 'merican's still love Barry Bonds. They don't give a ****. This moral high ground, to me, at least, is a South African peculiarity. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121428-what-would-you-ask-a-doper/page/5/#findComment-1801016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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