grinch Posted January 13, 2013 Share as a hobby i have been buying and selling roadbikes for many years.ive had the opportunity to ride nearly all makes of road bikes.full.carbon frames is just a image thing.good for the pros to get that one or two second lead.it might weigh one to two kgs lighter,depending on the size of frame.but to the man in the street it wont better your time.or you wont notice.il do a 20km route with a allu bike.get on to a full carbon bike.my time is the same.also buying a used carbon bike is very risky.you might have internal cracks you wont see.one small fall can cause cracks.end of the day stick to high quality allu bikes.they look just as good.if you want carbon,buy new from dealer with a warrenty.secondly.group sets.they are all good.shimano sora verses dura ace,does the same job. also a image thing.they are all nearly the same quality.same durability.the one might change a split second quicker than another.for the pros yes.the guy doing the argus etc.makes no difference.dura ace is double the price.but does the same job.if you had to blind fold someone,and let them test different components.it would be guess work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch Posted January 13, 2013 Share WTF...stadig oor die klippe maat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 13, 2013 Share WTF...stadig oor die klippe maat. :-D Roadies do it Faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone_Ranger Posted January 13, 2013 Share Having recently switched from an entry level alu mtb frame to a mid / top end carbon mtb frame, I can categorically say this is horse manure. Every aspect of my cycling has improved, climbing, flats on the road, descending, technical riding,etc... Not to mention the smile on my face when I'm riding . My first ride out I was overtaking guys in climbs where I was always the "overtakee". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agteros Posted January 13, 2013 Share Having recently switched from an entry level alu mtb frame to a mid / top end carbon mtb frame, I can categorically say this is horse manure. Every aspect of my cycling has improved, climbing, flats on the road, descending, technical riding,etc... Not to mention the smile on my face when I'm riding . My first ride out I was overtaking guys in climbs where I was always the "overtakee".Switch back to the alu bike (keep the wheels if you so desire) and ride with them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnout Posted January 13, 2013 Share Two things...1. Learn to type using Capitals for the start of sentences (waiting for a real Grammar Nazi to tell you the rest)2. You've got a lot of nonsense written in there. VeloErv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capcha Posted January 13, 2013 Share This guy is taking the mickey out of us. i am positive he started this topic just to get a response. He said he has been selling for years so surely he has knowledge or experience to know one bike from another? If not then i feel really sorry for his clients who have bought from him cause they probably on the wrong bike. Heck he probably thinks a point and shoot does the same as a 30k camera. But im sure he just stated that nonscence to get us all going Edited January 13, 2013 by Capcha Photography DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnout Posted January 13, 2013 Share Dont have to be so offensive.Did you enjoy that?Dont have time when i do emails and smses..So its habit form.Does it really matter?Or is it in your human nature to find fault in people.Shame on you.Are you a school teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnout Posted January 13, 2013 Share This guy is taking the mickey out of us. i am positive he started this topic just to get a response. He said he has been selling for years so surely he has knowledge or experience to know one bike from another? If not then i feel really sorry for his clients who have bought from him cause they probably on the wrong bike. Heck he probably thinks a point and shoot does the same as a 30k camera. But im sure he just stated that nonscence to get us all going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinHayes Posted January 13, 2013 Share Dont have to be so offensive.Did you enjoy that?Dont have time when i do emails and smses..So its habit form.Does it really matter?Or is it in your human nature to find fault in people.Shame on you.Are you a school teacher? VeloErv, DIPSLICK, Audible Anarchy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnout Posted January 13, 2013 Share wow.what a reponse.sorry guys if i rattled your guys cages.no offense.can you tell me whats the diff in groupsets if they are all say 10 spd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capcha Posted January 13, 2013 Share Welcome to the Hub Paul but ur statement holds no ground. everything about high end bikes is better than average entry level bikes from shifting to rolling resistence to response to hoods etc is just better. if u asking the question above then pls dont make out like u know it all. Clearly u need to edit ur original statement. Im really not trying to be nasty, it just contradicting Edited January 13, 2013 by Capcha Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB_Roadie Posted January 13, 2013 Share maybe he is trying to say he can sell us a cheap as roadbike for a price similar to what you pay for a carbon bike as you will get the same results? Do you trade with Niels Wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeloErv Posted January 13, 2013 Share wow.what a reponse.sorry guys if i rattled your guys cages.no offense.can you tell me whats the diff in groupsets if they are all say 10 spd? It's the difference in weight paul. you will spend less energy to accelarate, steer and brake something that weighs less paul. would it be wrong from me to ask if you are retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbaker Posted January 13, 2013 Share wow.what a reponse.sorry guys if i rattled your guys cages.no offense.can you tell me whats the diff in groupsets if they are all say 10 spd? Guys-Stop falling for this drivel... @paulbeen - Google is your friend- look things up there before you post about things you know squat about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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