LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[davetapson]

I have had almost a week of no milk or cream and I dropped 1.5kg.... dang ! This is a bit of a disappointment in a way since my treat was cream and nomu and protein powder....

 

Welcome back!

 

I'm hoping the worst culprit is milk. I was maintaining my goal weight ( + 1kg) on a diet that included as much cream and hard cheese that I felt like (I was not monitoring it). I seemed to put on weight after including kefir (but also had some HC weekends - braais, beer etc) so was not sure what actually really caused my weight gain.

 

I am going to cut out the kefir and see if my weight drops back while still eating cream/cheese. If that does not work, I will cut the cream and cheese and see what happens. My goal weight is 74kg, I normally hover in the 75's but currently am 77.

Edited October 2, 2013 by davetapson

[htone]

Sorry, HMT, I missed this. I can try to reload them overnight, may be corrupt due to all the interruptions when I originally uploaded them.

 

Anyone else had probs with these ?

 

Ok running on a nice and fast internet connection from work, so will copy Wheat first, once that is done, I will recopy Food Inc (they may disappear from the Google drive for a while).

[P.A.K.]

I have had a high carb week last week due to being away/living with family. The scale shows it. But I'm back in routine and since monday I've cut out coffee and milk. I was taking about 6 - 8 cups of coffee a day previously. Now I have Rooibos instead.

 

Once my weight reaches what it was before the high carb week, I'll continue without coffee and milk and see if I can break through the plateau I was on.

 

I have also decided to split my lunch into two meals. Still having the same amount of food, but splitting it in half and having each at least 2 hours apart.

 

Lets see what happens

Edited October 2, 2013 by P.A.K.

[htone]

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Welcome back!

 

I'm hoping the worst culprit is milk. I was maintaining my goal weight ( + 1kg) on a diet that included as much cream and hard cheese that I felt like (I was not monitoring it). I seemed to put on weight after including kefir (but also had some HC weekends - braais, beer etc) so was not sure what actually really caused my weight gain.

 

I am going to cut out the kefir and see if my weight drops back while still eating cream/cheese. If that does not work, I will cut the cream and cheese and see what happens. My goal weight is 74kg, I normally hover in the 75's but currently am 77.

 

I think it was the milk too, but I also did not really spread my protein intake and tended to consume it in two "lumps" which obviously didn't help. Much of what happened seems to be because I just became lazy....

[Helpmytrap]

Ok running on a nice and fast internet connection from work, so will copy Wheat first, once that is done, I will recopy Food Inc (they may disappear from the Google drive for a while).

No worries, downloaded it all last night. Must have been my end of the month connection speeds that was causing the issues.

[thatsme]

Hey guys,

 

I think I need some moral support (or something). Been doing this for about 9 mo now, and was going along fine for the first 6 or so. Settled into a somewhat strict routine but with leeway for relaxing things about once a week when I ate at other people’s houses/ other special circumstances. Dropped ~4kg and kept it off easily. I only weigh about 60, so that’s pretty significant and took me about 2kg above ideal – was happy with that.

Then I had a month of lots of ‘special’ occasions – visitors etc. I thought I had gone back to my previous routine after that, but realised a few weeks back that I’m back at my old weight. Thought I’d been strict since then, but it's sticking with me.

Feeling pretty discouraged – it was such a relief to find a way to eat that didn’t leave you worried about weight, and now I feel like it’s been taken away and I’m back to the worrying. I’ve never been overweight, but it’s stressful feeling like even if you eat right, it still keeps creeping up.

I’m not at the end of the road – perhaps I'm suffering from the 'carb creep' some people mention, or after reading above maybe I’ll cut the cream. Work’s also been very stressful – low carb doesn’t fix stress-eating unfortunately, so maybe I'm just overeating.

But not feeling very motivated – refusing ‘normal’ treat food was easy when I was feeling the payoff, but it’s getting harder now. Eish.

End of moan

Thanks to those of you sharing your personal findings - it's great to stop by here every now and then and see how things are evolving.

[htone]

@thatsme - I think that's how a few of us are feeling and perhaps what we are doing wrong is to say "LCHF does not work" in stead of saying "I did not work"... ?

 

In my case I definitely think it is a combination of not eating right (even eating too little), STRESS and a general lack of exercise or activity due to (my reasoning) and unforgiving winter.

 

So here's the cool part - let us collectively feed back as to what works to get the weight off and what doesn't ?

 

My guess is still that HIIT type training will be the catalyst - I just need to motivate my lazy ass to start that again....

 

Keep talking !

[davetapson]

The way I see this is that it is not an 'either / or' thing. Sometimes you are on track, and sometimes not. When you're off-track, just gently steer yourself back on track and keep on keeping on.

 

As long as over the long term you are steering in the right direction, you are better off than if you weren't...

[Helpmytrap]

 

Out of curiosity, what are you snacking on?

[No Name]

So I had a bad week with carbs (no excuse) and decided this morning that I want to cut out all breads. This morning breakfast was a egg, a vienna, some cheese and full fat yoghurt. Snack was another vienna and a apple. But I'm feeling very light headed. Can it be because i'm not taking in carbs now?

[davetapson]

Here's one for R139 on Loot, or R162 on Kalahari...

 

http://bookslive.co....n/9781432301248

 

Just went and bought this at Exclusive Books. Had some vouchers that were turning into compost in my wallet and decided this would be a good way to blow them.

 

Book looks good - all recipes are simple and achievable. Will be nice to have some variation over what I have come up with on my own.

 

Also has recipes for LCHF granola which will be nice to try.

[thatsme]

Yeah, I agree re. the not-doing-it-right thing. I feel like I haven't changed how I'm eating (compared to when it used to work :/ ), but I probably have. It's just that I never monitored things too closely before (because it was working) so it's hard to compare.

 

Re. snacks, mostly nuts and dairy (yoghurt + cream with nuts, sometimes a couple of berries), so maybe that's the problem. But I was eating that before too and didn't seem to be a problem.

Hopefully will figure it out soon

[Roux 1]

Why does Lucky Star sardines have 6g carbs/100g and the sardines you buy at say Woolies does not? The ingredients on Lucky star product does not specify any additional substances, only, sardines, water and salt .

 

Must add the other products packed in oil not water.

[htone]

So I had a bad week with carbs (no excuse) and decided this morning that I want to cut out all breads. This morning breakfast was a egg, a vienna, some cheese and full fat yoghurt. Snack was another vienna and a apple. But I'm feeling very light headed. Can it be because i'm not taking in carbs now?

 

Yes, it could be, but watch those viennas... they are typically carb-laden, so try and source e.g. organic sausage and rather use that - these processed things like viennas and poloni typically contain a lot of fillers and artificial gunk.

 

I have for the last two days packed a light lunch consisting of 3 boiled eggs, 3 reasonable slices of cheese and I eat that with some dollops of home-made mayo - it has worked remarkably well and I have not had any desire to snack at all !

[htone]

Why does Lucky Star sardines have 6g carbs/100g and the sardines you buy at say Woolies does not? The ingredients on Lucky star product does not specify any additional substances, only, sardines, water and salt .

 

Must add the other products packed in oil not water.

If it is the tomato-sauce based version of Lucky Star it would make sense - not sure if they put some kind of "sauce" with the unflavoured sardines, but my money would be on some starchy / maltodextrin additive to add flavour - does it not specify anything like that on the ingredients list ?

 

Edit : you said it doesn't list anything additional - perhaps because the quantities are minute ?

 

edit: typos

Edited October 3, 2013 by htone

[HippoPal]

Thatsme

 

A kindred soul in a sad state of affairs.

 

I have stalled too and am floundering. Is it the milk, the cream, the kefir, the full-cream yoghurt, a combination of all four, eating too little, eating too much? Too little estrogen, too much estrogen? I am lost and feeling so demoralized and demotivated so much so that I have just this minute eaten 4 forbidden liquorice allsorts, only 4 mind you : (

 

I think it's time to see an endocrinologist to work out just exactly where I stand hormone-wise as nothing has changed for me in my diet since June of last year and yet in the last four months I have seen a steady increase of fat on my belly and thighs.

 

Winter has been over in Pretoria for at least 3 weeks, apart from a smallish cold snap, and I have been more active so what is with this creep?

 

Loving this thread ... said this before : )