LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[htone]

I don't store my kefir grains in a metal container (I use glass), but I use stainless steel utensils.

So far, so good.

 

Here an excerpt from http://users.sa.char...efir.html#*Note :

Because milk kefir-grains are naturally acidic, the organic acids that are part of each kefir grain readily react with reactive metals. The important question is, which metals are reactive in the process of making and storing kefir? The answer is copper, brass, zinc, iron and aluminium are common reactive metals. If milk kefir-grains or kefir come in direct contact with any utensil made from any of the above, metallic ions of that particular metal can leach onto the grains, or into the kefir, where liquid-kefir is stored in containers made from any of these reactive metals. Daily long term ingestion of minute amounts of any heavy metal ion accumulate in the body, and can reach toxic levels.

However, stainless steel is quite inert and kitchen utensils such as sieves, spoons and bowls made from stainless steel are quite suitable for kefir making or for storing either water kefir or milk kefir. However, I personally would not use stainless steel containers to brew or store kefir, but rather use glass containers, for glass is the most inert, non-reactive material.

 

Thanks, I make and store mine in nice large consol glass jars, so my question was around the straining. I imagine the sieve I have must be pretty inert as it hasn't shown any rust in years, so I will use that, rather than the plastic veggie strainer thingy which tends to clog up quite quickly.

 

@Dirtbreath - You HAVE to leave the kefir out of the fridge to do its work, as putting it in the fridge effectively deactivates it and puts the kefir grains into "storage mode". The fermentation happens so quickly that the milk won't go off. Also think about how this stuff is traditionally made - in bladders made from animal skins, hanging in doorways so that when people bump into it as they go through the door, the mixture is stirred up.

[Helpmytrap]

I seem to be selectively lactose intolerant.

Although it might be pecan nuts but my money is on milk. Two days ago I had milk after my ride and then landed up with severe stomach cramps amongst other things, an hour ago I tested my milk theory and had 2 sips. Not even 10min later I had severe stomach cramps again. (I'm not dismissing the pecans just yet because coincidentally I had pecan nuts on both occasions that I had the milk.)

 

BUT I'm okay with greek yoghurt, cheese and double thick cream. Might be quantity though.

[HippoPal]

I stumbled upon this forum as a result of a LCHF search. So glad I did as I have learnt so much from this thread, thank you all.

 

I buy brightly coloured plastic sieves from Shoprite/Checkers - plastic all round, mesh included, approx. R14.95. My Kefir grains do not like metal at all, I find that they become very crumbly and watery. Using a plastic sieve they remain firm and the individual grains are well formed.

 

Anyone needing Kefir grains in Pretoria, please drop me a PM.

[Cuppa Bru]

I stumbled upon this forum as a result of a LCHF search. So glad I did as I have learnt so much from this thread, thank you all.

 

I buy brightly coloured plastic sieves from Shoprite/Checkers - plastic all round, mesh included, approx. R14.95. My Kefir grains do not like metal at all, I find that they become very crumbly and watery. Using a plastic sieve they remain firm and the individual grains are well formed.

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Interesting! Will try with plastic and see if it makes a difference.

 

HelpMyTrap, it may very well be that you're lactose intolerant. Kefir consumes lactose during fermentation which is why kefir milk is much(!) lower in carbs than milk. Yoghurt and cheese go through something similar.

[Helpmytrap]

Interesting! Will try with plastic and see if it makes a difference.

 

HelpMyTrap, it may very well be that you're lactose intolerant. Kefir consumes lactose during fermentation which is why kefir milk is much(!) lower in carbs than milk. Yoghurt and cheese go through something similar.

After my ride today I had a recovery drink, the effects were even worse than with milk. If milk is the cause, then maybe it was the Whey. Any of the other ingredients questionable? (Well excluding the colourants and flavouring which could also be at fault.)

[HappyMartin]

Helpmytrap, what occurs if you skip the recovery drink? Just an idea but are you perhaps not missing something else rather than being intolerant to something.

 

You could have multiple causes as well. This might not be one thing. Can make it tough to untangle. For your sake I hope it's just lactose. Be the easiest to fix.

[Helpmytrap]

Helpmytrap, what occurs if you skip the recovery drink? Just an idea but are you perhaps not missing something else rather than being intolerant to something.

 

You could have multiple causes as well. This might not be one thing. Can make it tough to untangle. For your sake I hope it's just lactose. Be the easiest to fix.

The only reason that I had the recovery drink was because I had a hard 5h15 165km ride and was completely poked afterwards, usually I don't bother with supplements. What do you mean by missing something?

 

When I was testing to see if it was milk that effected me on Friday afternoon, it was the middle of the afternoon and not after any form of activity.

[HappyMartin]

 

The only reason that I had the recovery drink was because I had a hard 5h15 165km ride and was completely poked afterwards, usually I don't bother with supplements. What do you mean by missing something?

 

When I was testing to see if it was milk that effected me on Friday afternoon, it was the middle of the afternoon and not after any form of activity.

 

 

I wasn't at all clear now that I read the post. Apologies. By miss something I mean something in your nutrition. As in I felt grim after an exercise session and ascribed it to the coffee I had afterwards but when I didn't drink the coffee I felt the same so it wasn't the coffee. It was not taking on enough nutrition while exercising. I hope that explains it more clearly. Now I have a recovery drink and no problems. My suggestion, and it is only a suggestion, is it might be you need something like more liquids when training, just as an example, and not eliminate something such as the recovery drink.

[SL7]

Howzit guys,

 

Thanks for all the interesting and useful information.

 

I started LCHF lifestyle in order to stabilise my blood sugar - been on it for 3 weeks.

 

Worcester road race was done on water only (had some avo oil to keep hunger pangs at bay).

 

The best tip was to take a quarter teaspoon of salt an hour before racing or training very hard - it works! (found it originally on Dr Phinney's website)

 

I still can't believe that I raced 94 km without an energy bar or energy drinks.

 

If you guys are looking for nuts at wholesale prices - Cape Nut Traders in Montague Gardens have good quality and wholesale prices.

[Cuppa Bru]

Extra salt is key!

I add about a Tbsp to a 2l bottle of filtered tap water. Salt makes everything better. Even Lindt chocolate

 

My biltong and sour cream staple got too expensive, so I tried something new: Grass-fed beef heart.

Cut into chunks when still cool (easy peasy when still firm).

Let it warm up to room-temp.

Put in a frying pan with a Tbsp of butter and some chilli and leave in there for just long enough to brown slightly on all sides.

Sling those bloody bad boys down your throat like a starved, bad-ass caveman at a feast. They are that good!

[Cuppa Bru]

I found out about a new use for coconut oil: Oil pulling. Swish coconut oil through your mouth for a good 10-20 minutes.

The mechanism for improving oral hygiene has something to do with coconut oil's anti-microbial properties when mixed with enzymes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_enzyme#Oral_cavity).

 

I wasn't a fan of CO few months back (thought it ruined my coffee and food), but my taste buds have taken to it! To the point of using "oil pulling" as an excuse for gulping huge chunks of @!$* expensive R162/kg CO at a time (after swishing through my mouth).

[Wet Ears]

On that note - anyone in Joeys keen to do a bulk order of Coconut Oil from Crede Oils. Great tasting and if you order 25L you get it for R80 per litre (half the price of Dischem). Postage would be R86.

 

I am keen to order and we can split 2 or 3 ways. Other price is R99 per Litre if order 12L.

[HappyMartin]

I would be up for that Wet Ears.

 

Never like coconut other than the green ones they hack open on the side of the road in Tanzania for you to drink from. Now I chuck through the stuff.

[Wet Ears]

Cool, will drop you a pm before ordering

[tombeej]

Just to confirm, you're buying 'cold pressed virgin', not that other refined odourless crap?

[Cuppa Bru]

Count me in for bulk virgin coconut oil.

For those who don't drill through their containers as quickly as some of us coconut heads , don't worry.

Coconut oil keeps well, especially if stored in a dark, cool place.

http://www.doesitgobad.com/does-coconut-oil-go-bad/