IM70.3 SA 2014

[travisza]

how do you determine the amount of L-Glutamine powder? I have also seen that recovery is key and all the stuff have L-Glutamine in

Generally accepted amount is 5g-10g a day.

 

If you're doing 2 a days then 5g in the morning and 5g in the evening.

[reteid]

Generally accepted amount is 5g-10g a day.

 

If you're doing 2 a days then 5g in the morning and 5g in the evening.

thanks for the advice.will give it a tri.

[travisza]

Just realised I wrote the amounts in grams - I generally just use a teaspoon so 5ml for me twice a day.

[sluiper]

I am in the 3rd week of a 4 week high intensity/high mileage training period and this morning on my long run I could feel my legs were sore and taking strain. I somehow need to pick myself up for a lunch time sprint swim workout.

 

What do guys use/do for recovery between workouts?

 

Between any long run (2+ hours) or bike (5+ hours) I always give myself 24 hours. Between normal sessions I try to give myself 12 hours.

 

I find that anything less recovery time than that starts being counter productive. But, you know, different folks and so on. I also try and make sure my rest day comes after my long run so that my body has time to recover.

 

I drink chocolate milk immediately after a session as well as a basic smoothie using bananas, nuts, greek yoghurt, eggs, honey and whatever other fruit I can find.

[gadget]

I am in the 3rd week of a 4 week high intensity/high mileage training period and this morning on my long run I could feel my legs were sore and taking strain. I somehow need to pick myself up for a lunch time sprint swim workout.

 

What do guys use/do for recovery between workouts?

Hammer recoverite and the Self massage and foam rolling. I don't have the bucks to go for a massage every week, but try to get a trained professional to hurt me at least once a month

[JGR]

Whiskey and a couple of bongs!!!

 

 

 

Foam roller and rolling stick, chocolate milk, GU recovery, USN epic pro and of course the thing I neglect most ... good sleep

[ADe]

Between any long run (2+ hours) or bike (5+ hours) I always give myself 24 hours. Between normal sessions I try to give myself 12 hours.

 

I find that anything less recovery time than that starts being counter productive. But, you know, different folks and so on. I also try and make sure my rest day comes after my long run so that my body has time to recover.

 

I drink chocolate milk immediately after a session as well as a basic smoothie using bananas, nuts, greek yoghurt, eggs, honey and whatever other fruit I can find.

I also try not to do another workout on the day of a long run/bike, but the rest of the week is going to be busy at work and I am probably not going to get time for lunch time swims. So I had to rearrange my training schedule for this week.

 

I only use the 32GI recovery drink after hard sessions. But I am thinking that I probably need to increase my in-take to after every session.

[ADe]

Whiskey and a couple of bongs!!!

 

 

 

Foam roller and rolling stick, chocolate milk, GU recovery, USN epic pro and of course the thing I neglect most ... good sleep

 

I think this is one of my other challenges, too little quality sleep. With a 2 year old in the house and a wife also training for 70.3, I try to train when they are sleeping, which means very early mornings.

[dracs]

Hammer recoverite and the Self massage and foam rolling. I don't have the bucks to go for a massage every week, but try to get a trained professional to hurt me at least once a month

Yup I have been avoiding my foam roller - but I need to re-aquaint myself. Sore but effective on tired tight legs.

[JGR]

I think this is one of my other challenges, too little quality sleep. With a 2 year old in the house and a wife also training for 70.3, I try to train when they are sleeping, which means very early mornings.

My job is quite demanding and my days are normally 7h30 to 5h30/6pm. Training after work - getting home at 8ish, cooking, eating and its already 10 and you havent even spend time with your partner. Bed at 11/12, up at 6. Repeat. Im think of asked my boss if I can have an extended lunch and come in an half an hour earlier so I can swim over lunch

[sluiper]

I think this is one of my other challenges, too little quality sleep. With a 2 year old in the house and a wife also training for 70.3, I try to train when they are sleeping, which means very early mornings.

 

I know exactly what you're going through: I've got 2 little ones that require a lot of attention. I set up a treadmill and a spinning bike at home for those quick 30-40 minute sessions.

 

It means I'm technically "at home" when I do a quick session. It also removes a lot of the time you need to get ready for a bike/run session because you can just jump on and go.

 

I've also signed up for Club-V at Virgin Active which means I can do a session at gym and take the kids with. Afterwards I take them for a swim in the kiddies pool, so they love going as well.

[Edge_Design]

Is there any specific chocolate milk that is meant to be good or just any chocolate milk? I don't do anything for recovery post training at the moment, but with training 5 to 6 days a week at the moment I'm feeling like I need to start making an effort so interesting to read this discussion... Smoothies sound good too, but not sold on the raw egg part irrespective of how good they might be!

 

Aiming for 5.45 in Jan so not a very serious tri-athlete, but probably suffer even more after training because of that!

[ADe]

I know exactly what you're going through: I've got 2 little ones that require a lot of attention. I set up a treadmill and a spinning bike at home for those quick 30-40 minute sessions.

 

It means I'm technically "at home" when I do a quick session. It also removes a lot of the time you need to get ready for a bike/run session because you can just jump on and go.

 

I've also signed up for Club-V at Virgin Active which means I can do a session at gym and take the kids with. Afterwards I take them for a swim in the kiddies pool, so they love going as well.

Yeah its tough to balance everything. It have taken a decision not to train in the evening as well. That is why I train early mornings and swim during lunch (unfortunately I only have time for a max of 45 min sessions, but that is how it is). The evenings I spend with the family. So I try to be in bed by 10pm and up at 4-4:30 again.

 

Edit: sorry guys, a bit of topic.

[Snytjie]

Is there any specific chocolate milk that is meant to be good or just any chocolate milk? I don't do anything for recovery post training at the moment, but with training 5 to 6 days a week at the moment I'm feeling like I need to start making an effort so interesting to read this discussion... Smoothies sound good too, but not sold on the raw egg part irrespective of how good they might be!

 

Aiming for 5.45 in Jan so not a very serious tri-athlete, but probably suffer even more after training because of that!

 

The working parts are the protein in the milk and the glucose in the chocolate. The protein helps repair muscles and the glucose replaced spent muscle glucose and also cause an insulin spike which shuttles the protein quicker into the cells (or so I am told...)

 

You can create that effect with any easy absorbable protein/glucose mix. Chocolate milk is easy because you just buy the bottle or mix hot chocolate into a glass of milk. Industry standard is 4 part glucose to 1 part protein, but in my own experimentation I found that 1-1 works just as well for me.

 

Again, for me, chocolate milk just doesn't have enough protein by itself, so therefore I make the two egg/milk/sugar mixture (with either berries or chocolate powder for flavour).

[Snytjie]

I've also signed up for Club-V at Virgin Active which means I can do a session at gym and take the kids with. Afterwards I take them for a swim in the kiddies pool, so they love going as well.

 

Been doing that for two years now, and it works great. I really like the V-Max concept: it gives you a little time for yourself, and the activities in there are educational and active. My daughter (5) loves going to play in there. I normally swim with her for an hour while my wife goes exercising, and then she goes to V-Max while I do a 60-90min session. My wife picks her up and gets something to eat while I finish... works pretty well.

 

We go to Steenberg which has great facilities and great assistants (mostly) who are very active with the children. I'm not sure what other gyms are like.

[Snytjie]

I also try not to do another workout on the day of a long run/bike, but the rest of the week is going to be busy at work and I am probably not going to get time for lunch time swims. So I had to rearrange my training schedule for this week.

 

Hi,

 

Look, I'm no expert or anything, but what I read from coaches like Joe Friel and Phil Maffetone is that its not about the volume but rather about the quality of the session. According to them you can pack the hours on, but if your body is not recovered when you start the next session it can and will cause problems. These can range from wasting your time to actually loosing fitness and on to getting injured. Maffetone also makes a great deal about stress and its effect on your ability to train and elevate fitness. He says that it doesn't help to put yourself under immense stress to fit in sessions. That stress negates the effect of the training.

 

I have certainly seen that it my own training: when things are going tough at home/work, it's no use to try and force in sessions. I'm constantly tired, I don't progress in fitness and I often need extended periods to recover from sessions in stressful periods. I have now learnt to relax a little when the going gets tough and rather reschedule sessions than force them in. It works much better, and in the end I get to my targets set (even sometimes with less training than planned).