rouxtjie Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Cost of entry is a tad high else I would join It is lifetime membership though hahahha Cmon Bennie man, a new toy is darem maar lekker
Garfield2010 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Posted June 25, 2014 Cost of entry is a tad high else I would join Well I know of a guy who got ran over the other day who would gladly pay a "get back on the road" fee of R15,000 to have his broken hip and bike fixed instantly. My wife enjoys this much more and to be honest it saves a lot of time. You get on the bike 5min before every race so effectively you are busy 60 minutes. Normally it takes 40 minutes just to meet everyone and start riding outdoors. It is also as mentioned a lot safer and an controlled environment means no illness due to cold winter mornings. No punctures or maintenance costs and the best part is that you decide on what routes with what gradients you ride when you want to. Imagine the benefit of riding the 94.7 x 6 times for muscle memory before race day...... Not to mention all the statistical feedback this program gives you. So yes it does seem expensive until you add it all up.....
rouxtjie Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Minimum cost of entry?2695 it seems https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/140625-online-racing-virtualtraining-cyclops/page__st__128#entry2342328
TALUS Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 One word: SAFETY! and one more: TIME both are priceless.
Garfield2010 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Posted June 25, 2014 I still seem to be around 4 - 5km's off my actual speeds. Normally I can average 36km - 38km on the road if I ride hard for one hour. On the trainer I cant average faster than 29km per hour. Granted the routes over the past few days was harder than what I am used to. Maybe the big thing is the fact that I have a TT bike and the program does not make provision for aero TT position? Also being in TT position means my chest is not as open as a roadie and the program does not take my aero position into account..... Does this make any sense?
TALUS Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I dont think you must translate the data directly. I never reach the same speeds or power. Many reasons have been mentioned. I think you must rather see the lines as running parallel and rather use % change as indicator. As a rough guide - my speed is about 10% lower on the IDT as on a 100km ride.
rouxtjie Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I still seem to be around 4 - 5km's off my actual speeds. Normally I can average 36km - 38km on the road if I ride hard for one hour. On the trainer I cant average faster than 29km per hour. Granted the routes over the past few days was harder than what I am used to. Maybe the big thing is the fact that I have a TT bike and the program does not make provision for aero TT position? Also being in TT position means my chest is not as open as a roadie and the program does not take my aero position into account..... Does this make any sense?It does...there are a few factors that could influence both sides of the equation...aero / drafting / weight / pedal stroke deadspot / heat / no downhills ie you have to pedal on the downs / It is fair and equal though ito racing each other....to a degree....since weight isn't taken into consideration. The person with the best FTP will normally win an online race...but in the real world it might not be the same person since its Watts / kg that counts there.
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 i am awaiting the call from complete :whistling: they just came past and collected your unit!! :)
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Yes, Dave needs to listen, hy ry die *** uit ons uiti partake in selective training, do 2 races a month and that counts as racing and training all in one.
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 2695 it seems http://www.thehubsa....28#entry2342328 correct for the cycleops trainer but we running a special on the Jet Fluid Pro, ANT+ speed/cadence sensor, ANT+ USB stick for Android tablet and PC and 6 month free sub to the software for only R4995.00 and we will include free delivery!!
TALUS Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 It does...there are a few factors that could influence both sides of the equation...aero / drafting / weight / pedal stroke deadspot / heat / no downhills ie you have to pedal on the downs / It is fair and equal though ito racing each other....to a degree....since weight isn't taken into consideration. The person with the best FTP will normally win an online race...but in the real world it might not be the same person since its Watts / kg that counts there.And thus vet gatte like me at least can lie about our weight , sorry I mean compete.
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I still seem to be around 4 - 5km's off my actual speeds. Normally I can average 36km - 38km on the road if I ride hard for one hour. On the trainer I cant average faster than 29km per hour. Granted the routes over the past few days was harder than what I am used to. Maybe the big thing is the fact that I have a TT bike and the program does not make provision for aero TT position? Also being in TT position means my chest is not as open as a roadie and the program does not take my aero position into account..... Does this make any sense?stop finding excuses haha.the software has a platform that allows for "equal" competition and does not matter if you have a R5000 bike or a R50000 bike they will all go the same speed provided you keep the same Power. an equal playing field i suppose :clap:
Garfield2010 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Posted June 25, 2014 It does...there are a few factors that could influence both sides of the equation...aero / drafting / weight / pedal stroke deadspot / heat / no downhills ie you have to pedal on the downs / It is fair and equal though ito racing each other....to a degree....since weight isn't taken into consideration. The person with the best FTP will normally win an online race...but in the real world it might not be the same person since its Watts / kg that counts there.So you are saying there is a chance that I only suck online?
rouxtjie Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 correct for the cycleops trainer but we running a special on the Jet Fluid Pro, ANT+ speed/cadence sensor, ANT+ USB stick for Android tablet and PC and 6 month free sub to the software for only R4995.00 and we will include free delivery!!Good deal
rouxtjie Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 So you are saying there is a chance that I only suck online? hahahaha No, what I am trying to say is...we all suck online....there is no place to hide(read 6,6kg bikes / 80mm deepsections / big peleton) Its you, your legs / lungs and the bike and if you have enough power, you will beat the oke on the 100 grand pina with your yellow quebeka hahahhaa. PS maybe put on full TT gear for the next race and give us feeback....lol
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