NotSoBigBen Posted July 30, 2014 Share Do normal people ride with XTR? I thought just the Pro`s do....Anyhow the point i am trying to make is riding a 1x10 will be alot cheaper. It sure it will be but, IMHO of course, 1*11 is all about that 10 giving the option to get a much wider spread of gears with just 1 blade, I may however be talking utter rubbish as usual .... Edited July 30, 2014 by NotSoBigBen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted July 30, 2014 Share I recently changed to 1x10.put a 30tooth chainring i front and a 42 tooth at the back. Works so well. And you won't lack speed on the flats either. And like the other guys said. 1x11 is expensive and the drivetrain seems to need replacing very quickly. But thats what i heard.. Not a fact. So you keep up with anyone on 'normal gears' with a 30*11 on the flats? #ekvramaarnet .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 30, 2014 Share It sure it will be but, IMHO of course, 1*11 is all about that 10 giving the option to get a much wider spread of gears with just 1 blade, I may however be talking utter rubbish as usual .... Precisely. So - when factoring in the cost of the cassette, one should also factor in the cost of a replacement XT / SLX / XTR chainset (small blade, big blade) and the accompanying cabling (fully enclosed, of course) before comparing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ84 Posted July 30, 2014 Share So you keep up with anyone on 'normal gears' with a 30*11 on the flats? #ekvramaarnet .... I ride with a 36 up front (26" hardtail) and struggle to keep up on long flats with guys on normal gearing,maybe im just week and cant spin fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted July 30, 2014 Share 11 Speed cassette = R340010 Speed cassette = R800 So 1 x 10 would be cheap, but 1 X 11 would be expensive... So then after your initial factory fit 11 speed cassette goes tits up, you can replace it with a 1 X 10 and then it'll be cheap to maintain again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Good thing with that is that when the one side wears, you can just turn it around and use the other - no wear! Instant new chainring! If you meaning turn/flip the chainring around then I don't think that is possible. XX1 defiantly not as the one side of the chairing is machined to fit the spider.XO1 maybe but I think the chainring is also machined to fit the spider one way, you would also need longer chainring bolts and It will probably move your chain line in towards the frame.X1 might work as there are 3 different cranks and I think the chainrings are symmetrical where they mount to the spider so only longer bolts and chain line to think of. Not sure though? Just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 30, 2014 Share I was assuming the use of a raceface / wolftooth / rapid / hope n/w ring... which are reversible SCD and NotSoBigBen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted July 30, 2014 Share I changed to 1x10 last year. It cost me approximately R500 for the RF front ring - I already had a clutch derailleur and 11-36 cassette. I carried on using the same chain for a while and am still using the same 11-36 cassette. I find the 34t front a bit high when it gets really steep and may try a 32 t Rapide ring when its time to change the cassette and chain, or I could put a 40 or 42 tooth ring at the back for around R1k. The l/h shifter now does duty as a dropper post remote lever and works way better than the stock lever. Its a no brainer Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazza_pe Posted July 30, 2014 Share Your local riding terrain should be the decider. If you have lots of steep long climbs then it would probably be best to stick with 2*10. I live in PE and find that my 1*10 setup is perfect for the majority of terrain in this region. 1*11 is a complete ripoff, rather do your own 1*10 conversion. Provided you already have a clutch rear derailleur, you'll only need a chainring (Raceface are excellent approx R800) and I went the General Lee route which was around R2k. So off the bat it's far cheaper than a 1*11 and also very affordable to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 30, 2014 Share I changed to 1x10 last year. It cost me approximately R500 for the RF front ring - I already had a clutch derailleur and 11-36 cassette. I carried on using the same chain for a while and am still using the same 11-36 cassette. I find the 34t front a bit high when it gets really steep and may try a 32 t Rapide ring when its time to change the cassette and chain, or I could put a 40 or 42 tooth ring at the back for around R1k. The l/h shifter now does duty as a dropper post remote lever and works way better than the stock lever. Its a no brainer I must admit I'm also thinking of a 32 ring. That, or I need to up my dose of HTFU in the mornings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted July 30, 2014 Share So 1 x 10 would be cheap, but 1 X 11 would be expensive... So then after your initial factory fit 11 speed cassette goes tits up, you can replace it with a 1 X 10 and then it'll be cheap to maintain again? I don't think you can put a 10 speed cassette on a 11 speed hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted July 30, 2014 Share I must admit I'm also thinking of a 32 ring. That, or I need to up my dose of HTFU in the mornings. i think you've done enough hardening. you need this: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/112025429/Sewing_Kit.jpg to achieve this: http://anthonypugh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/retoucher-anthony-pugh-mission-australia-man-a.jpg ps: i bought myself the same kit..so.... Edited July 30, 2014 by Capricorn Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheV Posted July 31, 2014 Share i think you've done enough hardening. you need this: How will he eat his pies then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 31, 2014 Share 11 Speed cassette = R340010 Speed cassette = R80010speed slx cassette weighs 50grams more than a xt and costs R500 and i find it works just as good or even better than a xt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cejay Posted July 31, 2014 Share I agree with the guys that are saying the 1x10 route is the answer,I converted 2 bikes to 1x10 and must say I am enjoying it .When racing we use our 2x10's. On a lighter note (no pun intended) my wife is 1,62m weighing about 50kg and she rides a 36 upfront with a 11-36 at the back,living in KZN we have some nasty hills,so gents me included I think we should HTFU!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 31, 2014 Share How will he eat his pies then?Osmosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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