DieselnDust Posted September 21, 2022 Share On 8/15/2014 at 2:37 PM, daniel04 said: Would you hire/rent a power meter on a monthly/weekly basis? No I would be the renterĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulienR Posted September 21, 2022 Share Check out the Favero Assioma power meter pedals - these are a great option for road bikes. They are highly rated and if you get a used one for a good price you should be able to sell at a similar price later on the hub PregoRoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomik Posted September 21, 2022 Share +1 for Assioma's. Excellent pedals - transferable to any bike means you never lose your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 22, 2022 Share 19 hours ago, Anneke Roodt said: Is anyone renting power meters? I would love to rent one, I'm preparing for a 70.3, would be great to have an idea what I am actually doing on the road in terms of power, and not just on the kickr.Ā Learn to ride on feel and you wonāt need one in the race. That means no ERG mode, and also riding blind to the data; but it takes time to learn this āskillā. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted September 23, 2022 Share 22 hours ago, Frosty said: Learn to ride on feel and you wonāt need one in the race. That means no ERG mode, and also riding blind to the data; but it takes time to learn this āskillā. A power meter is actually most beneficial during a race. Especially for post race analysis. The results of the analysis feedback to your training program.Ā In training, a pm isnāt as necessary but if you have one why wouldnāt you use it? however hr is good enough for training. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 23, 2022 Share 32 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: A power meter is actually most beneficial during a race. Especially for post race analysis. The results of the analysis feedback to your training program.Ā In training, a pm isnāt as necessary but if you have one why wouldnāt you use it? however hr is good enough for training. Ā I donāt disagree; I am pro PM on a bike. I have club members that Iām coaching that donāt have power meters on their bike, and only do power based training on their Kickrs, as well as on feel when doing hill repeats. The HR response, plus Feel, is enough to see how two efforts compare.Ā DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedToWin Posted September 23, 2022 Share 17 minutes ago, Frosty said: The HR response, plus Feel, is enough to see how two efforts compare.Ā The problem often comes in with zone 2 long rides. The are off the power for 25% of the time without realising it, and they drift into mid zone 3 on every little rise without realising it. HR doesn't help, and for some reason education seems impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warick_wrx Posted September 23, 2022 Share The only time I think a PM becomes useful in a race is when you in the break away ! Its not going to stop you getting dropped or help you into the selection. Edited September 23, 2022 by warick_wrx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted September 23, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, warick_wrx said: The only time I think a PM becomes useful in a race is when you in the break away ! Its not going to stop you getting dropped or help you into the selection. Then you are using it incorrectly or not racing, just getting pulled along. No pm needed for wheelsuckers. Race files are the most revealing to a riders weaknesses and strengthsĀ ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 23, 2022 Share 5 hours ago, bleedToWin said: The problem often comes in with zone 2 long rides. The are off the power for 25% of the time without realising it, and they drift into mid zone 3 on every little rise without realising it. HR doesn't help, and for some reason education seems impossible. Try riding with a cap on your HR and see how your power compares. Z1 (3-zone) model or upper range of Z2 (5-zone). That will force you to ride slower on the hills, and keep the ride a true easy ride. It also means have parts of the ride drop to Z1 (on downhills). But this conversation would derail the tread somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedToWin Posted September 23, 2022 Share 5 minutes ago, Frosty said: Try riding with a cap on your HR and see how your power compares. Z1 (3-zone) model or upper range of Z2 (5-zone). That will force you to ride slower on the hills, and keep the ride a true easy ride. It also means have parts of the ride drop to Z1 (on downhills). But this conversation would derail the tread somewhat. Agreed to not derail, and we are on the same page RE power... š I have found that trying to get people to do endurance rides on HR (or RPE) is hard because they simply freewheel way way too often and the HR response on rolling hills is not fast enough. Doing supra threshold intervals on RPE is quite manageable to execute well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenceblur Posted September 23, 2022 Share Take the guesswork out of it I say - but to each his own,Ā not an absolute necessity but the merits are there Ā This not the thread for this though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 23, 2022 Share As the OP (the thread resurrector) has stated, it would be for IM 70.3 use, which is a non-draft event. So average speed is the ultimate performance measurement (at least on the bike leg). The person with the faster average speed does better than someone with the highest power. Iām not against getting a PM, Iām debating on the specific need to rent one for an event-use only. Even a +/- 2% variance could possibly yield a 4% difference in power, plus then the L/R imbalance if itās a LS only power meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babse Posted September 23, 2022 Share Very healthy and relevant topic (OP got enough advice that renting is not ideal and should purchase for the long term instead). Ā I have a PM on both MTB and Road bikes and find them extremely beneficial in both races and training.Ā My day to day training is power based.Ā Just last week, after arriving late for my start group i rolled off in 2nd group. I rode the race entirely on power and hit every climb with necessary output (helped that i knew the course and length of the climbs) and finished with a pretty decent time considering i rode 3hrs + solo.Ā ChrisF and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted September 23, 2022 Share Having a power meter will show me just how humiliatingly little power I actually produce vs what I think I produce.Ā slowashell and ChrisF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 23, 2022 Share 6 minutes ago, ouzo said: Having a power meter will show me just how humiliatingly little power I actually produce vs what I think I produce.Ā Ā Wahoo and Zwift does a fine job of shattering my ego ...š Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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