Clinchers Vs. Tubbies.

[DaSH82]

What is better, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of these two types of tyres?

[GreyOwl]

Tubbies are the best for racing...and if you have a backup car...Your mad to train on them...

 

 

 

Clinchers work just as well for non pro riders...

[DaSH82]

And besides the price difference.. LOL. ;P What makes them good to race on?

[GreyOwl]

A tubular is more responsive and lighter. But its a racing only wheelset. The tubulars are more expensive, but thats because they are designed for racing in mind. Dont buy a decent set of Tubby race wheels, and put cheap tubby's on them. Thats not on.

 

But there are some great HP tyres out there now, and they last long. And you can repair them if they puncture.

[DangerDave]

i dont think there is any weight saving between tubbies and clinchers now days. a tube and tire weight about 230g and some of the lightest tubbies out there weight in at just about 220g. and the wheel weights are the same. i would how ever be worried about a tubbie comming off the wheel, clinchers should not do that. and the costs are huge for tubbies. i would stick to clinchers. but thats just me.

[DaSH82]

Hmmm... fair enough... I am all for the cheaper but good value tyres at this stage... LOL.

[AndreZA]

Just to through a spanner in the works. You can add tubeless road to the list aswell but I would never trust it.

 

 

[Spinnekop]

Check these clinchers out......

 

http://www.light-bikes.de/eng/2008/02/28/116/

 

 

[The_Break]

Tubbies are said to have less rolling resistance due to higher pressures they can be pumped up to, 12bar max on my conti tubiess vs. 8.7bar on my clinchers. Extra pressure means faster, but some have claimed it makes the front wheel bounce around a bit when too hard during hard cornering on rougher roads. Not experienced this myself I must say.

 

Conti do a cheap training tubby called the Giro. Haven't checked pricing for a while but I think you may be able to pick them up for just over R200 depending on who you buy from.

 

Tubby rims are in fact lighter than clincher rims as they can be made totally from carbon fibre and thus do not have the extra alu in them. If you check out the weights of tyre tube combinations you should notice that tubbies are actually considerably lighter when taken on a % basis.

 

Conti competition tubby = 230g

Conti GP4000 + Conti race tube = 205g + 100g = 305g

Conti GP4000 + Schwalbe extra light = 205g + 65g = 270g

Not sure how good the extra light tubes are though. Have heard they punture slightly easier. Really can't say.

 

All in all, tubbies will get you there faster due to tire pressue.

 

[fandacious]

All in all' date=' tubbies will get you there faster due to tire pressue.

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Assuming of course you dont get a puncture. And have to wait for your backup vehicle. or walk home

[GreyOwl]

Ok, wheres Bornmann?

 

I've raced on tubbies all my life(actual proper racing) and would not race without them.

 

But for races like Argus, 94.7 and the like, your better off using clinchers if you start in anything other than elite.

 

What you gain in performance, your gonna lose by sitting on the side of the road wishing you'd have raced with clinchers...

[Brakkies Sport Fotos]

fand.. give the guy proper advice.

 

 

 

You buy a R80 victoria tubby repair canister, works the same as a bomb , but not only inflate your tire to 6bar, but at the same time release juice through the valve into the tire and seal it

 

 

 

you can then use your normal bom and pump the 6 bar harder if you wish

 

 

 

No, you dont have to wait for a bachup vehicle or walk home.

 

 

 

The canister is so small, you dont even notice it in your back pocket.

 

popeye2008-03-12 05:38:16

[GoLefty!!]

Tubeless, the future is here

[Kiwi]

On average, a clincher rim will be 100 grams heavier than the equivalent tubby rim, even if the clincher is all carbon. Rotational weight increases at the square of the speed so this is a big difference. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It is almost on impossible to get a rim pinch on a tubbie. The only clinchers you will see at the up coming Paris Roubaix are tubeless ? these are another option you could consider, Shimano Dura Ace UST wheels are readily available.

 

If you use tub tape rather than glue then a tub change will not be a problem ? you won?t have to gingerly ride around corners fearing a tub rolling off.

 

A good clincher tyre and tube costs the same as a good tubby, if you are paying more PM me!

 

The difference is a simple puncture in a clincher is an easy fix. Fixing tubbies is an arse of a job and they are really only good for training on after that. Don?t train on tubbies!

 

Bottom line is if these are racing only wheels tubbies are the way to go.

 

[GreyOwl]

Personally I'd never repair a tubby. Never ever.

 

Nor would I use that tape stuff...but thats me.

 

 

 

However, I did once win a kermesse with no tubby glue on my wheels, just pumped them as hard as possible! But I have been known to be insane.

[Mudsimus]

However' date=' I did once win a kermesse with no tubby glue on my wheels, just pumped them as hard as possible! But I have been known to be insane.[/quote']

 

I rode like that often...that tubby aint going nowhere at 12 bar.