GoLefty!! Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Hey, I could be wrong. With the increase in numbers it's possible they had to rope in another factory. Will try and get confirmation. But to be honest that wouldn't make any difference to me either way. Giant know how to glue carbon and weld alu tubes. They are MASSIVE so will be able to offer serious value in terms of numbers. On another note, would be interesting to know how many guys weren't on Anthems due to Giant's push for 27.5 bikes. 27.5 didn't seem to hold Bretjens back
Johny Bravo Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 A bigger question to me than the choice of manufacturer is why do 95% of mtbers keep choosing aggressive head angle, short travel, long stem, flat bar, narrow wheeled machines when you can get a really fast and rad enduro bike (even a spez if you want) for the same price as a spez epic expert?Because 99 percent of the trails in South Africa can be ridden on them. They also teach you skills, and dont make you lazy like long travel bikes that soak up everything.
NicoBoshoff Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 A bigger question to me than the choice of manufacturer is why do 95% of mtbers keep choosing aggressive head angle, short travel, long stem, flat bar, narrow wheeled machines when you can get a really fast and rad enduro bike (even a spez if you want) for the same price as a spez epic expert?Because they ride differently.
Hairy Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Slightly of topic, Giants factory and makes interesting reading...http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-one-39835/http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-two-39839/
rudi-h Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Because 99 percent of the trails in South Africa can be ridden on them. They also teach you skills, and dont make you lazy like long travel bikes that soak up everything.Here I differ passionately... Enduro bikes teach a LOT more skill than a XCO or marathon bike, purely because the geometry takes the weight off your arms and front wheel and prevents OTB's. Im yet to see a non-pro marathon rider on an aggressive XCO bike that can bunnyhop a log or manual his way through a rutted section... Go to an enduro race and every second bloke can do it.
Iwan Kemp Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 says article not found.... Part 1http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-one-39835/ Part 2/http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-two-39839/
paul_ct Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 says article not found....http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-one-39835/ http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-two-39839/
Hairy Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 says article not found....working from cell phone and not coming right paying the link. There was a two part interview done with giant on bike radar. Next attempt at pasting part one http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/inside-giants-taiwan-frame-factory-part-one-39835/
Johny Bravo Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Here I differ passionately... Enduro bikes teach a LOT more skill than a XCO or marathon bike, purely because the geometry takes the weight off your arms and front wheel and prevents OTB's. Im yet to see a non-pro marathon rider on an aggressive XCO bike that can bunnyhop a log or manual his way through a rutted section... Go to an enduro race and every second bloke can do it.Because the bikes are easy to ride. Learn your skills on a hard tail. Move on from that.
YUMEYA Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 What is the recommended brand for a first time buyer?
rudi-h Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Because the bikes are easy to ride. Learn your skills on a hard tail. Move on from that.Exactly my point. Nobody goes back to being 13 year olds trying to master skills on a HT once they turn 30. Enduro bikes are easier to learn and not meaningfully slower or heavier than marathon bikes anymore. So why make it hard for yourself. You need to pull really hard to lift the front of an XCO bike which makes it really hard to control the movement. The end result is that nobody masters the skill and are forever limited to hop a 100mm pavement by pulling the bike up with your cleats. Make it easier with an enduro bike and... Boom! suddenly okes master the skills giving them the confidence that they can too improve and do cool stuff like hop logs and ride badass rock gardens...
Johny Bravo Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Exactly my point. Nobody goes back to being 13 year olds trying to master skills on a HT once they turn 30. Enduro bikes are easier to learn and not meaningfully slower or heavier than marathon bikes anymore. So why make it hard for yourself. You need to pull really hard to lift the front of an XCO bike which makes it really hard to control the movement. The end result is that nobody masters the skill and are forever limited to hop a 100mm pavement by pulling the bike up with your cleats. Make it easier with an enduro bike and... Boom! suddenly okes master the skills giving them the confidence that they can too improve and do cool stuff like hop logs and ride badass rock gardens...Agree with you.
NicoBoshoff Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Exactly my point. Nobody goes back to being 13 year olds trying to master skills on a HT once they turn 30. Enduro bikes are easier to learn and not meaningfully slower or heavier than marathon bikes anymore. So why make it hard for yourself. You need to pull really hard to lift the front of an XCO bike which makes it really hard to control the movement. The end result is that nobody masters the skill and are forever limited to hop a 100mm pavement by pulling the bike up with your cleats. Make it easier with an enduro bike and... Boom! suddenly okes master the skills giving them the confidence that they can too improve and do cool stuff like hop logs and ride badass rock gardens...Yeah! That's why the entire XCO field at World Cups ride 67' head angles and 160mm travel rigs. Oh, wait...
YUMEYA Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 You can complete the entire epic with never having to bunny-hop or manual. Whatever floats your boat.
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