Bloukrans Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 not to totally derail this,,i agree in many ways,,,,,,but simply from a numbers perspective(ratios) that wouldnt be applicable at ALL but i 100% agree we simply cant stand togetherIs die woord miskien "afstig"?
DJR Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 ................................As I said, the only way forward is government level and unless the entire cycling community can get behind it and show how serious they are, we are wasting our time................I can see only 2 organisations with the necessary clout to talk to government on behalf of cyclists: The PPA and Cycling SA. Those 2 have to work together first, otherwise we'll be talking with a forked tongue!
Wyatt Earp Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I can see only 2 organisations with the necessary clout to talk to government on behalf of cyclists: The PPA and Cycling SA. Those 2 have to work together first, otherwise we'll be talking with a forked tongue!Neither of them will and neither of them are interested in getting their hands dirty.Watch this space .
DIPSLICK Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I can see only 2 organisations with the necessary clout to talk to government on behalf of cyclists: The PPA and Cycling SA. Those 2 have to work together first, otherwise we'll be talking with a forked tongue!cant even get riders to the races they qualify for, i think asking them to look after the rest of us falls under an area of give a shiit
Uni Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Let's see how many people will actually join the awareness ride in Soweto next month, I know they will be too busy..........Have you got a date in mind? Reason I ask, with the last one there were many people that didn't know about it, also it clashed with some races.Also there seemed to have been some confusion as people were shocked when my friend and I said we don't live in midrand - as there seemed to be an understanding amongst some that it was a specific midrand awareness ride. What about (assuming @bicyclesafetysa aren't already) pooling efforts with the freedom ride on the 22nd March. That already has buy in from the city - Major Parks Tau will be riding, full road closure etc - this year it's Sandton to Alex. That also has bigger marketing clout.
Wyatt Earp Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Have you got a date in mind? Reason I ask, with the last one there were many people that didn't know about it, also it clashed with some races.Also there seemed to have been some confusion as people were shocked when my friend and I said we don't live in midrand - as there seemed to be an understanding amongst some that it was a specific midrand awareness ride. What about (assuming @bicyclesafetysa aren't already) pooling efforts with the freedom ride on the 22nd March. That already has buy in from the city - Major Parks Tau will be riding, full road closure etc - this year it's Sandton to Alex. That also has bigger marketing clout.The date for the last one was well advertised .As for the races, there was one race that weekend, the other weekends have 3 or 4.You will hardly find a weekend without races .
DJR Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Neither of them will and neither of them are interested in getting their hands dirty.Watch this space . cant even get riders to the races they qualify for, i think asking them to look after the rest of us falls under an area of give a shiit Then members of these 2 organisations should light a fire under their managements' arses to get more vocal and to put more pressure on government! The PPA, I know, have a safety campaign, but they can do MUCH MORE, especially in engaging government. In the Western Cape they are doing just that, but nationally their reach is limited. I'm not up to speed with what exactly CSA does, but they SHOULD DO LOTS. It is part of their mission statement as far as I know.They seem to have governments ear, they should shout the safety message LOUBER! How do we get them to DO SOMETHING CONCRETE? As opposed to just more talk and policy statements!
Nayr Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Everyone comes up with an idea, run with it for a while and then give up (I am not referring to this isolated situation though) So now we have many people trying many different things and in the end of the day none of it comes together and the monies gets swallowed in to a big black hole.I cannot see why people can't all work together . Have to agree with this statement...It's the only way to be heard. Wyatt I hope you succeed in firstly getting heard by government and secondly getting through to them. I'm not sure if you've seen the "Mayor's vision for cycling' in London, if you haven't it's worth a read. Interesting how a 'cycle-revolution' has become part of their strategy. edit: https://www.london.gov.uk/priorities/transport/cycling-revolution
DJR Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 ........Watch this space .I will, and I sure wish you all the hair you can grow on your teeth. With what you are doing, you are going to need it, because government is a very slow and deaf and frustrating animal!
Wyatt du plessis Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 WTF boet. I think you have some issues to work out first hey? you want to know if i cycle---put your real name on the hub-- phone me my no is avail and lets go ride---if you can keep up BRO
Wyatt du plessis Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 I will take 2 of number 3. Just give us an idea on sizing, can you do womans cuts as well or just guys?hi please call me on 0829221129 or mail me so we can discuss your order etc I am sure we can do woman sizing no probs
Wyatt du plessis Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 hey guysyep I do believe that there are many scamsters out there---but before you judge take a moment and find out what and who the person is... Hi Wyatt. There are more scamsters than even we can attempt to keep weeding out from this community, but we keep trying and realise that we may often offend someone who is not aware of the dynamics here, which is way we always suggest sticking around and becoming part of what is going on here IF YOUR INTENTIONS ARE HONEST. Time is something a scammer never has! This is our most useful tool in getting to the core of people with agendas who visit this site. I am not always on the hub as I have a life outside and on my bike I have been on the hub for a while and have sold more bikes and stuff here than can be imagined... If you're new to the site, I suggest you roll back the attitude and take the time to become part of it, before you attempt to sell it even something as useful as a safe cycling initiative! (Glad to hear your trading status here is upstanding!) I have not asked for moneys to be paid I have launched an idea and have given my personal email --if you want you can come to my house lets sit down talk and see if you know something about cycling and what have you tried to do regarding this...or do you sit back ride on the back of other guys and judge??? You cannot launch an idea in one post and attack the people you are hoping will rally behind your idea in the next, even if you use your personal email address! a one of the shirts say---my social media is outside so if you want to judge lets go for a ride and meet then we judge ....its easy to say stuff behind a computer screen..... We are not trying to judge you. Most of us do not even know you, so we don't have the option to consider judging you. As a community we do not place a premuim on who rides the most or has the most cycling accolades. We celebrate that each person who regularly logs onto this site has a passion for throwing their legs over a saddle and going for a pedal. Whatever their style, flavour and how much they do it, that is their choice. but next time when you or a friend or a family member gets knocked down --judge yourself then and ak why you did not give an idea a chance..... Just 2 weeks ago I lost a close work colleague and mate. In the last year, I know 3 other people personally that have had incidents on the road and are recovering from these. Some may not fully recover! I am beyond ready for anything that will improve cycling safety to gather real traction and show some meaningful change we can all witness without having to even compare a stat! I'd like to close off my response to you, suggesting that you may have felt angered because you were challenged to validate who you are, but choosing to let this anger be so apparent in each of your responses was short sighted. Can you turn the tide of opinion based on the tone of your responses?? Possibly. It wont be nearly as easy as you had it when Spinnekop had just vouched for you.... hey thanks for your input and I fully agree I responded wrong--but as all said one has to first find out or try to see who the person is before they attack you!! my details are available and I said PLEASE guys I am trying here any input and advice or help greatly appreciated..this thing can only work if we all do it toghether...I am not always on the hub and I am definitely not very clued up with posting and it stuff but please bear with me and lets do this
HappyMartin Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 you want to know if i cycle---put your real name on the hub-- phone me my no is avail and lets go ride---if you can keep up BROElle baas het sy bobaas. I think for someone that claims to be is trying to help our community that you are doing a remarkably unskilled job reagarding communication. If you seriously want to move safety forward you are going to need to learn to communicate and deal with difficult people. The above quote is not indicative of any skills in that regard. Put the ego away and focus on what you want to achieve.
Wyatt du plessis Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 hey guys ok herewith my formal apology to anyone that might have been offended!! I am trying something and hope that you guys will support and help where needed --I need your input and also advicethis thing can work with numbers and PLEASE I am open to suggestion and help also should you need orders please email rather than post here as I am not always here on hub but email is available, also I am a bit off a dumbass with this type of it stuff so struggle to post etc.... my email again wyattdp01@gmail.com also I have a new design --what do you think see attached
HappyMartin Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I think that's the best so far. Well it's definately my favorite. That I would wear
Wyatt du plessis Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 Elle baas het sy bobaas. I think for someone that claims to be is trying to help our community that you are doing a remarkably unskilled job reagarding communication. If you seriously want to move safety forward you are going to need to learn to communicate and deal with difficult people. The above quote is not indicative of any skills in that regard. Put the ego away and focus on what you want to achieve.sorry mnr-- but you need to understand my frustration, I am being attacked left right and centre for atleast trying something--my details are available if the guys are sceptical its understandable, but please phone or lets talk out before I get judged--I do not want to offend anyone anymore and I beg the sceptics to either help or stay quiet and lets do something here..so ok sorry again-- but now lets till go ride -- coffee is on me!!
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