porqui Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 This is neither rant nor rave but it is not chit chat either. Tokai is going to be logged. So are we going to approach TMNP for reduced yearly fee for the next year considering we are going to loose half the rides up there and the increased inconvenience of trucks and everything else. We could approach them with a signed mass appeal for reduced fees. (Yah I know chances are next to nill but we Capetonians tend to be a pretty apathetic bunch) Just putting it out there.
sawystertrance Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 This is neither rant nor rave but it is not chit chat either. Tokai is going to be logged. So are we going to approach TMNP for reduced yearly fee for the next year considering we are going to loose half the rides up there and the increased inconvenience of trucks and everything else. We could approach them with a signed mass appeal for reduced fees. (Yah I know chances are next to nill but we Capetonians tend to be a pretty apathetic bunch) Just putting it out there.I have decided not to renew my card for this year. Despite the best efforts of the guys who put in long hours on the trails and in meetings with SanParks, the place has gone to pot since they started logging and from my point of view, MTB is no fun without trees and trails. I'd rather spend my money at Jonkers and although it costs me a bit more now for petrol, I find I am riding new trails further afield rather than just going to Tokai each week. SanParks can do without my money - at least for a while.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 This is neither rant nor rave but it is not chit chat either. Tokai is going to be logged. So are we going to approach TMNP for reduced yearly fee for the next year considering we are going to loose half the rides up there and the increased inconvenience of trucks and everything else. We could approach them with a signed mass appeal for reduced fees. (Yah I know chances are next to nill but we Capetonians tend to be a pretty apathetic bunch) Just putting it out there.No. They have no power over the permit fees, it is set by the bigwigs in pretoria, and is a flat fee for mountain bike access to a nat'l park.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I have decided not to renew my card for this year. Despite the best efforts of the guys who put in long hours on the trails and in meetings with SanParks, the place has gone to pot since they started logging and from my point of view, MTB is no fun without trees and trails. I'd rather spend my money at Jonkers and although it costs me a bit more now for petrol, I find I am riding new trails further afield rather than just going to Tokai each week. SanParks can do without my money - at least for a while.Give it a year or so... We'll be updating you with progress all the time anyway, so you can see if it's time to return!
porqui Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 El Cap't it does not seem to be a flat fee - I know that Harkerville is about 2/3 of Tokai. (and they maintain the trails)
popcorn_skollie Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 After riding a bit in Jonkers the last couple of weeks I decided to go back to Tokai on sunday.I did the snakes then the dh line and when I came to the top of vasbyt something occured to me. Thats it? Thats tokai isn't it. Well for me anyways. I mean you do it a couple times but there was nothing new that made me want to climb again. I used to be part of the sentiment towards the old trails and how disappointing it was that the trees are disappearing. But after sunday I'm embracing the change.I realise that our choices of trails will be limited during these changes but I dont mind that either. I'm looking forward to the changes. I think the wait will be worthit. For the time being.I'll be quite content messing around in vasbyt (brilliant work btw) DH3, roots, etc. On a side note. A pump track of some sorts is below DH3 would be...EPICjust sayin...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 True that Ashiq!! The new trails should be epic!!
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 El Cap't it does not seem to be a flat fee - I know that Harkerville is about 2/3 of Tokai. (and they maintain the trails)Doesn't matter. That's the cost for getting in. Logging won't change that - you're still getting access to a national park on your bicycle.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 True that Ashiq!! The new trails should be epic!!That's what I hope for. And I'll be there helping Deon and co along the way. This knee ain't gonna stop me any more. Knee brace from now on all the time.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 oh boy this rant ...........yet againI don't think it's ever going to go away. There's a new guy at the gate after 5h30. You should see the butt-hurt on some peoples' faces when he insists that they show him the cards and / or slips, and then proceeds to take the out of date ones away from them, then showing them back down to the hut to pay for a day-pass. After 6pm? No card / out of date card? no entry. Sorry... Man, there were some angry people
popcorn_skollie Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 oh boy this rant ...........yet againlol, I don't think any petition is going to reduce fees.So lets try and sidetrack this thread into some positivity.
GoLefty!! Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I really really enjoy my night rides again, even if the baboons seem a little more agro these days.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I really really enjoy my night rides again, even if the baboons seem a little more agro these days.Yeah. And the monkeys are also getting more territorial - seem to be moving down and staking a claim to Vasbyt at around 5 or 6pm Oh - you were talking about them as well... Gotcha.
popcorn_skollie Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 True that Ashiq!! The new trails should be epic!!It has to be. The work done on vasbyt has really raised the bar.On short rides during weekdays I like to hit that upper section over and over again.
Cookie88 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I don't think it's ever going to go away. There's a new guy at the gate after 5h30. You should see the butt-hurt on some peoples' faces when he insists that they show him the cards and / or slips, and then proceeds to take the out of date ones away from them, then showing them back down to the hut to pay for a day-pass. After 6pm? No card / out of date card? no entry. Sorry... Man, there were some angry peopleSo there is a guy there at 05:30 every morning checking the cards?
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