Smurfy Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 That's rof Jip, fight fire with fire. Yes I have more than enough training, know the law and will only use it as a last resort.
DIPSLICK Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 GROUP MEANING 2/3/30 if there were 3 runners( a group) 3 armed thugs against 3 unarmed or even 5 unarmed runners the out come will still have been the same,,,sadly groups wont even stop this, VERY FRUSTRATING sadly the cape does seems to be getting wilder than gangsters paradise over here the problem we(people working and paying taxes) dont have the time needed to effectively change the situation, these creatures are just sitting watching and picking what they want ,,when they want, sting operations wont work(cost vs reward) while you still celebrating "removing" a threat from TOKai,,,he has already posted R500 bail and on his way to fetch another IPHONE5 to pay back his brother for bailing him out
Surv0MTB Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Damn, Tokai is going downhill at a rate of knots!!! South Africa is.. Tokai is a symptom of the bigger problem.
Smurfy Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 GROUP MEANING 2/3/30 if there were 3 runners( a group) 3 armed thugs against 3 unarmed or even 5 unarmed runners the out come will still have been the same,,,sadly groups wont even stop this, VERY FRUSTRATING sadly the cape does seems to be getting wilder than gangsters paradise over here the problem we(people working and paying taxes) dont have the time needed to effectively change the situation, these creatures are just sitting watching and picking what they want ,,when they want, sting operations wont work(cost vs reward) while you still celebrating "removing" a threat from TOKai,,,he has already posted R500 bail and on his way to fetch another IPHONE5 to pay back his brother for bailing him out Agree with you. Safety starts with you. That said one should never ride/jog/walk alone. Still see lots of single cyclists on the Bottelary in the Northern Subs at night. Many being woman. Just a matter of time.
cadenceblur Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 This is such a load of BS. We are being held prisoner!We cannot enjoy our sport, when and where we want to?These low lifes essentially dictate to us.Unacceptable!Brings me back to the R60 entry fee that people are charged as well?
Wuzzie Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Seriously makes me sick. We got told we cant ride "cork tree Ally" that trail from top of Southern cross drive bellow Cecelia Forest by some ranger then had to risk our lives riding between rush hour traffic on Rhodes drive. Why???????When there is actual real crime going on in our hood.The rangers should be full time looking for the perps or helping fix trails.
DIPSLICK Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Agree with you. Safety starts with you. That said one should never ride/jog/walk alone. Still see lots of single cyclists on the Bottelary in the Northern Subs at night. Many being woman. Just a matter of time. the thing is i know many lady cyclist who say "i refuse to be a victim" im not giving up my sport,,,i see these ladies riding up the P91(modderfontein road) and i cant help think ARE U SERIAAS?? yes its wrong that we need to ride"around" hot spots but as i said this is africa you need to be realistic, i even see single riders(ladies) riding at VAN GAALENS ill ride there with a group of mates and i know half the group have guns,,,,REALLY SCREWED up situation we are in, problem is the governmunt couldnt care less, they much bigger criminals than the thugs in the forrests
BuffsVintageBikes Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm looking at packing heat again as well. How do you carry your weapon Smurfy, on your person or on the bike? I found that when I carry on my person, the weapon picks up moisture and it starts rusting. However packing on the bike is not ideal because if you get hit with something and seperated from the bike you're stuffed.
GlockG4 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Like it was mentioned, if you are a group of ten riders, all it takes is ONE armed criminal and the whole group is powerless. I cycle with my firearm, it is neatly holstered, and nobody knowns that I have it with me. If you do not like it, go somewhere else. I am not carrying a firearm to look cool, its a big inconvenience to me, and I am also no carrying a firearm to protect my bike and cellphone, I carry one as a last resort to protect my life, and I am not counting on the nice criminal not to kill me. Your safety is ultimately your own responsibility, and of you can not comprehend that, good luck, and enjoy your surely soon too end life.
Mokgaga'a mmakubela! Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 was planning to cycling the saturday before the cape argus but i dont think cape town is safe anymore. is it safe to cycle alone in Milnerton area?
nazmo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Milnerton should have quite a few people. I ride there often, the open spaces actually makes it safer. Its the roads with bushes, up in mountains etc... thats riskier
Louzy Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 so whats the solution for Tokai? 'security' only gets there at 07:30 if you're lucky. most of us have to ride well before that to get in a good ride before work. should a group ride be started where one or maybe two of the riders are armed?how will that play out if something goes down?
SpyDude Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Solution is MOUNTAIN MEN... operatives that are well trained in combat and tracking (all ex military) nuff said..
Mokgaga'a mmakubela! Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 cant security get there early or even be there 24hrs? what about security cameras at the parking lot or at the point of entry and exit?
BuffsVintageBikes Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Anyone thought of using a drone (quad copter) to find these fkers or would the trees make it impossible to spot them?
MTB-BFK Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Like it was mentioned, if you are a group of ten riders, all it takes is ONE armed criminal and the whole group is powerless. I cycle with my firearm, it is neatly holstered, and nobody knowns that I have it with me. If you do not like it, go somewhere else. I am not carrying a firearm to look cool, its a big inconvenience to me, and I am also no carrying a firearm to protect my bike and cellphone, I carry one as a last resort to protect my life, and I am not counting on the nice criminal not to kill me. Your safety is ultimately your own responsibility, and of you can not comprehend that, good luck, and enjoy your surely soon too end life.something like this?
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