lechatnoir Posted April 9, 2015 Share It'll need a way to broadcast the signal, a battery to run it etc etc so more weight to carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted April 9, 2015 Share Camera drones are not yet sanctioned for commercial use anywhere in the world. The FAA is still working on its legislation and hence the SACAA is waiting to see what the US decides to do. The problem is really the plonkers who can walk into a toy shop and buy one of these and go and fly it thanks to the GPS fly home and gyro stabilisers on board. These idiots are the people who cause the GKYou mean like this chop?http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38697:drone-brings-silver-falcons-aerobatic-display-to-a-premature-halt&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share Been down this route, I explored this about 3 years ago, was told by supersport that it will never work, and they are not prepared to pay for my time or footage...I have a drone that will follow you as long as you have a GPS enabled Android device (Samsung S4 phone) in your pocket...I have a live down-link that allows me to follow the camera views real time etc... Bottom line is like I said the costs become prohibitive as a top end machine will set you back R30k plus (the new DJI Inspire1 is retailing locally at R50k. so...who will foot the bill? The CAA is currently working on legislation to accommodate the use of Drones for commercial purposes but I read that the air display at the recent Easter Rand show got called off cuz some idiot launched his drone while the Silver Falcons were doing their routine..http://www.suasnews.com/2015/04/35093/south-africa-drone-cuts-short-silver-falcons-display-at-rand-show/ A mate of mine's company is one of two companies that have been given a license to operate drones in the country and they are doing anti rhino poaching flights in the Kruger Park. The FAA (US) has released guidelines for the use of drones as guidlines... The Discovery program Gold Rush is using drones in Alaska and Canada where the "rules are not as strict" same as the Amazon delivery drones - they have been forced to test in Canada and only now have been given permission to perform "proving flights" with restrictions in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Have a look at SteadiDrone. Made in Knysna, one hour flying time, FPV, amazing gimbal to keep the video flat and smooth, and it also has a tracking feature so can follow you around for some amazing footage. Plus all of the usual GPS / homing / auto landing options.Fantastic local product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share I have the same flight controller that the steadi drone uses, it is the 3D Robotics Arducopter flight controller and uses the APM Mission Planner software and App. I take my hat off to the Steadi drone guys as they have made a frame locally and marketed it well - but they are not cheap either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share www.team-blacksheep.com also do amazing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zone Posted April 9, 2015 Share They had a drone doing some filming at the AfricanX trail race, there are some pretty cool shots, it could absolutely work for mtb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1Vcyk0j2E Pretty easy to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yOCTgVqmeQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted April 9, 2015 Share You mean like this chop?http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38697:drone-brings-silver-falcons-aerobatic-display-to-a-premature-halt&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107Exactly like that chop! Eish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted April 9, 2015 Share In the US the matter is under appeal so current commercial operators can continue. Hasn't stopped new people getting into the gam despite the fact that drones are not permitted.I think it was Amazon that had plans to deliver parcels to your door step via drone. The FAA took a dim view on this and enforced a clause in the Civil Aviation law that forbids beyond line of sight automomous drones.Some get around the law by flying within line of sight.In SA the CAA doesn't care. Its not a toy if it has a camera and therefore its illegal to take to the air.The use of telemetry devices on RC aircraft is also strictly illegal to use in public spaces but it hasn't stopped ICASA allowing the sale of those radio's. But hve an accident that causes property or personal harm and you're in for a hefty fine and prison time. Not true, most high end Futaba a radios as well as the Hitec Aurora 9 and 9X comes standard with telemetry and the Hitec by default feeds back on-board battery power to the radio. I spoke to SAMAA personally and they confirmed that these radios are approved and therefor SAMAA will pay out if there are any personal injury due to a accident. Please read what I wrote about not strictly legal but sales being allowed. This is mostly due to the low power output of the rc transmitters and receiver transmitters. I too get telemetry from my 14Sg but the use of it is restricted to approved samaa flying sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge_Design Posted April 9, 2015 Share What about the SA based company(ies) that do drone based aerial videos - they appear to be extremely successful in general so don't appear to be under any pressure to stop their operations. I did a quick Google search now and there appear to be tons of them. Are they all operating illegally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted April 9, 2015 Share Does not mean, you cant own a drone and take some awesome bike footage. It certainly has made panning aerial shots possible for the relatively serious amateur videographer. Me, I would absolutely love one, but the costs in SA is prohibitive ( for me anyway) I am interested to know how the producers of Gold Rush on Discovery got by the FAA as they use a drone extensively for their footage. I also want a steadicam adapter for my gopro.... Yeah doesn't mean you should own one either. What happens when the technology fails and you have to fly that thing on your own, seat of the pants style?? Usually that means a smoking hole in the ground and hopefully with no one laying next to it. People seem to have no idea how much damage a plastic prop spinning at 20,000 rpm can inflict on the human body. I've seen what a wooden prop spinning at 1800rpm can do, its not pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted April 9, 2015 Share What about the SA based company(ies) that do drone based aerial videos - they appear to be extremely successful in general so don't appear to be under any pressure to stop their operations. I did a quick Google search now and there appear to be tons of them. Are they all operating illegally?Technically yes they are operating illegally, BUT there are loopholes as with most laws, what they do is they will film your event for "free" and then charge for the editing process of the footage...as they are not allowed to "fly for gain" i.e. commercial purposes. As we all know as well, who is going to enforce the legalities of whether or not a drone is permitted to fly. if you were to tell a policeman for example that there is a drone flying in your neighborhood, what's he gonna do...Look at you blankly and say KE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSG Posted April 9, 2015 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1Vcyk0j2E Pretty easy to do...Impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted April 9, 2015 Share Technically yes they are operating illegally, BUT there are loopholes as with most laws, what they do is they will film your event for "free" and then charge for the editing process of the footage...as they are not allowed to "fly for gain" i.e. commercial purposes. As we all know as well, who is going to enforce the legalities of whether or not a drone is permitted to fly. if you were to tell a policeman for example that there is a drone flying in your neighborhood, what's he gonna do...Look at you blankly and say KE? Actually they know what to do. A friend of mine was escorted from a public park for flying his camera drone. We also get regular visits at our flying club from cops who want to check out the equipment and understand what it's all about. They have been briefed on the drone issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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