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Which 29r Trail Bike?


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I have just got the Pyga Oneten29 and it is absolutely fantastic - after years on Anthems, Stumpjumpers and others, I can't get the smile off my face. A HUGELY capable bike. 

 

It climbs like a goat, tons of traction (the back just never slips), but on the downhills it is incredibly fast and beautifully balanced.

 

I have a 120mm fork as I plan to do a few multi-day events, but i did test one with a 140 Pike, wider rims and Hans Dampf 2.35s, and that was just insane. If you live in the Karkloof area, I would strongly advise trying to get one for a test ride.

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are we having a 29er trail bike porn contest now?

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If you wait till november. frames come with newer 148mm rear axle standard. 

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are we having a 29er trail bike porn contest now?

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/New-Ripley7.jpg

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ripley-IBIS2979.jpg

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If you wait till november. frames come with newer 148mm rear axle standard. 

 

Who brings in these? They look pretty cool indeed.

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Thats very nice, how much? Who brings it in?

 

I dont think theres a local dealer currently, but there was a dude at the last Hakahana enduro riding one, who bought it in from the States IIRC.

Too much of beautiful, that bike!

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I have just got the Pyga Oneten29 and it is absolutely fantastic - after years on Anthems, Stumpjumpers and others, I can't get the smile off my face. A HUGELY capable bike. 

 

It climbs like a goat, tons of traction (the back just never slips), but on the downhills it is incredibly fast and beautifully balanced.

 

I have a 120mm fork as I plan to do a few multi-day events, but i did test one with a 140 Pike, wider rims and Hans Dampf 2.35s, and that was just insane. If you live in the Karkloof area, I would strongly advise trying to get one for a test ride.

 

If i had R60 000 I would buy an Pyga 110 frame and build it up with proper sixC RF (35mm) components, XO1 D/Train, Guide brakes, Stealth dropper, Pyga Carbon Trail rims on Industry 9 Torch hubs and of course a PIKE Baby!

 

Your own custom trail munching bullet proof mountain goat! - and you can make it the way YOU want it! 

 

i'd rather spend the money on the build and not the carbon frame. 

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If i had R60 000 I would buy an Pyga 110 frame and build it up with proper sixC RF (35mm) components, XO1 D/Train, Guide brakes, Stealth dropper, Pyga Carbon Trail rims on Industry 9 Torch hubs and of course a PIKE Baby!

 

Your own custom trail munching bullet proof mountain goat! - and you can make it the way YOU want it! 

 

i'd rather spend the money on the build and not the carbon frame. 

I agree with the idea of building up your own bike, but that's a 80K + build you've got going there. You'll struggle to get XO1, carbon rims and Industry 9 on 60K budget....

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Greg Minaar Cycles in PMB can put you onto a Spez Camber/Stumpy/Enduro.

They can also put you onto a Tallboy LT. Alu version in XT or equivalent spec may be within budget.

 

Pyga 110 29er can take a 140mm fork and also worthy of consideration. Sadly I think the Stage Max is out of your budget but it fits your requirements 100%

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Oh and I know the guy with the Evil, And there is no way you will get one here in budget. The frame will probably set you back 60k and that head angle is way to slack for Karkloof trails it will be like pedaling a downhill bike.

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Oh and I know the guy with the Evil, And there is no way you will get one here in budget. The frame will probably set you back 60k and that head angle is way to slack for Karkloof trails it will be like pedaling a downhill bike.

I'm sorry, in all due respect: You are talking out your behind. The Evil Following have a 67.8 HA. Chris Pearton got a podium at the Karkloof Classic 40km on a Banshee Spitfire ...66.5 HA. I myself have never ridden a bike with more than 67.5 HA at Karkloof, and I love those trails!

"Like pedaling a downhill bike".... you must be kidding me.

I'm not even going to bother to ask where you got the 60K frame price....

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I'm sorry, in all due respect: You are talking out your behind. The Evil Following have a 67.8 HA. Chris Pearton got a podium at the Karkloof Classic 40km on a Banshee Spitfire ...66.5 HA. I myself have never ridden a bike with more than 67.5 HA at Karkloof, and I love those trails!

"Like pedaling a downhill bike".... you must be kidding me.

I'm not even going to bother to ask where you got the 60K frame price....

 

Each to their own,

I have a number of points that might help to understand my reasoning.

  • I have sat on and spoken to two people who have ridden the “Evil in question” one being the owner and their opinion along with my own was that it is very slack for South African Trail/Enduro riding and that it only comes into its own when thing get seriously steep (obviously this is Fork travel dependant).
  • What we both have to remember here is that this is not our bike, so our preferences don’t count squat. It’s the OP’s that count.
  • I know “Chris” well and “no offense to the OP” he is no average Joe. The Karkloof 40km is in all honestly a kid’s race and rider 7th is not a podium “no offense to Chris” and I know a few people who could win it on a DH bike so that argument doesn’t hold water.
  • I have been lucky enough to have had the opportunity to ride a very large number of different bikes of all shapes and sizes so I would hope that I have an idea of how head angle affects a bike.
  • You mention riding Karkloof, as a matter of interest how much of Karkloof have you ridden? I have lived 35km’s for Karkloof for the last 24 years and spent hundreds of hours riding there and the majority of trails there are pretty flat and flowing (especially the Howick side). Given this and that the OP is coming from a marathon background a slightly steeper head angle will feel more natural/(similar to his current bike) along with him doing rides that might be longer than your average Trail ride due to his fitness. Who knows I could be wrong. Karkloof does have some steeper stuff but there are some big climbs to get there.
  • Oh and you don’t have to ask, I’ll work it out for you.

Frame price $2600 x 12.45 = R32 370 x 14% = R36902

Now add freight: ±R14000 (quote from last week).

SARS handling fees: ±R200

= ± R51 000 (and you can be sure there will be a hidden cost or two) So I was slightly off.

Complete bike X1 $4 999 x 12.45 = 62238 x 45% = ±R 92 000

 

As I said each to there own.

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I'm sorry, in all due respect: You are talking out your behind. The Evil Following have a 67.8 HA. Chris Pearton got a podium at the Karkloof Classic 40km on a Banshee Spitfire ...66.5 HA. I myself have never ridden a bike with more than 67.5 HA at Karkloof, and I love those trails!

"Like pedaling a downhill bike".... you must be kidding me.

I'm not even going to bother to ask where you got the 60K frame price....

Spoke101s sentiments come from the bike owner himself. Bare in mind there are Karkloof trails, and then there are Karkloof trails... The 30km route is a fun route with no serious climbing, as with the Supa20 and most trails on this side (the 40km Classic falls into this bracket) - where most people ride. I ride my 66deg HA bike here all the time and love it. BUT, throw things in Karkloof like Lebanon, Kiba and Kruger Park into the mix and things get very unpleasant very quickly on a very slack trail bike. Personally I wouldn't go slacker than 68deg (or around this mark) if i had one bike and Karkloof was my regular playground.

 

This said, Andres opinion of his Evil (and the relevant HA) might not be shared by yourself but it's a valid point and well raised by Spoke101. Comparing it to a DH bike may be a bit excessive but he was making a point. He is extremely knowledgable when it comes to bikes, rides PMB and surrounding trails extensively (and competitively) and if I was the OP I would take the time to chat to him about what he feels would be a good choice.

 

Opinions - each to their own.

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Ok

 

So I have decided to supplement my 29r Marathon Bike with a trail bike.

 

I am looking to buy a new 29r Trail Bike, and no I'm not interested in 27.5 (which makes this quite limited as everything trail appears to be 650B now). I ride an XL frame and am very happy with the 29r size for me.

 

Im not looking to do Enduro's, just something fun to play on every weekend in the Karkloof, so must be able to climb reasonably well, singletrack fun, 140mm region of travel, 40-50km ride distance.

 

Budget about 60k

 

My current favourite is the Niner RIP9 Carbon XT build

 

Thoughts, comments, feelings?

 

Thanks

Just a Q, why not a 650 ?

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