Protein Shakes

[TheTashkentTerror]

I support the "Then why use it?" type of responses that have come up. There are some world-class athletes who are vegan and many more who are vegetarian. I don't endorse it myself, but it does indicate (IMO) that things like protein shakes are redundant. To me they are a hangover from the gym-crazy era of the 90's when people would buy huge tubs of stuff that said "Ripped FX TDI nitrox" on it or something. 

 

Ultimate Sports Nutrition does not come in powdered form. It grows out the ground and walks happily in pastures (I hope). 

 

Having said all that.... chocolate Steri Stumpie.

[Crossmonster]

Good point - are the serving sizings the same.  I understand the above is 2 tablespoons so about 30grams...  USN?

 

On the bottle it recommends 21grams 

[Crossmonster]

 

 

As for the cost, I suggest calculating the rand value per calorie and compare that with whole food. You're likely to find that you'll be hard-pressed to find a better value for money source of protein (chicken, eggs, fish, etc.). This isn't to say that it's not overpriced for what it is.

 

 

 

I'm with this guy...

[JohanC]

Optimum Nutrition tastes great with water. I don't use any milk at all.

 

I also don't use any local brands. I much rather pay an extra R200 and buy ON, Dymatize or Muscle Milk.

[Hennie VR]

 

 

[Patchelicious]

Do we not get enough proteins from our diets?

[JannievanZyl]

Very little need to supplement with protein powder and, for most, could be counter-productive.

 

Even at the higher end of protein requirements, you're looking at 1.5g/Kg of LEAN body mass, i.e. not 1.5g/Kg what you see on the scale. for a 80Kg cyclist that's less than 100g of protein per day. Anything over that is going to be converted into glucose in your body.

 

If you do a serious (and I mean serious) strength training session, it'll help to take some protein directly afterwards. But why a super-expensive shake when nothing is ever going to beat a nice piece of steak or some chicken or fish. My go-to meal after gym is Sashimi!

 

Whey protein generates a higher insulin spike than many carbohydrates so be very careful guzzling that Whey shake after every session. Most likely will undo much of your effort.

[Rocket-Boy]

I support the "Then why use it?" type of responses that have come up. There are some world-class athletes who are vegan and many more who are vegetarian. I don't endorse it myself, but it does indicate (IMO) that things like protein shakes are redundant. To me they are a hangover from the gym-crazy era of the 90's when people would buy huge tubs of stuff that said "Ripped FX TDI nitrox" on it or something. 

 

Ultimate Sports Nutrition does not come in powdered form. It grows out the ground and walks happily in pastures (I hope). 

 

Having said all that.... chocolate Steri Stumpie.

Take a look at how much sugar is on the label on the back of that Steri Stumpie...

[Ratty]

I can't stand protein shakes on their own so I make my own version of the Kauai peanut butter bomb

 

I mix the following:  Bulgarian yoghurt, banana, cocoa, almond butter and water.  Then I either add some protein to it or some oats depending on when I am drinking it (after exercise = protein, breakfast = oats).

 

It is so delicious IMO. 

[Rocket-Boy]

I dont use them often but when I do my protein shake consists of 3 egg whites, milk and a few drops of vanilla essence. Supplements just end up going off in my cupboard because I never really use them.

[nonky]

I used to blend raw oats and put them in my protein shakes. It was like drinking sand. Then I discovered I'm gluten intolerant and haven't eaten oats since.

 

I've never found protein shakes to taste bad, but there are definitely some brands that are better than others; I'd rank USN last. Texture and thickness I find usually has more to do with what you're buying than the brand (MRP, pure whey, isolates/mixes, etc.).

 

As for the cost, I suggest calculating the rand value per calorie and compare that with whole food. You're likely to find that you'll be hard-pressed to find a better value for money source of protein (chicken, eggs, fish, etc.). This isn't to say that it's not overpriced for what it is.

 

Also, ignore the serving suggestions and just get a kitchen scale and target macro numbers to supplement diet.

FYI

 

Oats are not related to gluten-containing grains such as wheat, barley and rye. They don't contain gluten, but rather proteins called avenins that are non-toxic and tolerated by most celiacs (perhaps less than 1% of celiac patients show a reaction to a large amount of oats in their diets).

[Malpiet]

Do we not get enough proteins from our diets?

depends but I doubt it, without a supplement I don't see anyone eating 1.5grams protein per kg of body mass and that's just to maintain muscle.

 

I only use Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey or GNC Whey Isolate both are expensive and retails +-R1000 for 2.27kg the main difference between proteins are the blends (make up) and quality of ingredients used.be careful with other brands they have a higher carbs or sugar.

[JannievanZyl]

depends but I doubt it, without a supplement I don't see anyone eating 1.5grams protein per kg of body mass and that's just to maintain muscle.

 

 

 

It's 1.5g/Kg of LEAN (i.e. just your muscle mass), not your total weight.

 

And it's extremely easy to get to that level. If you use a calorie counter, you'll quickly see you need to reduce your meat intake if you aim for the 1.5g number.

 

Bacon and eggs for breakfast, a chicken salad for lunch and a small steak for dinner will already put you over.

[velomonatiCT]

FYI

 

Oats are not related to gluten-containing grains such as wheat, barley and rye. They don't contain gluten, but rather proteins called avenins that are non-toxic and tolerated by most celiacs (perhaps less than 1% of celiac patients show a reaction to a large amount of oats in their diets).

 

problem if you are celiac in RSA is finding oats that haven't been processed in a plant that processes wheat maize etc - its like the chocolate that may contain traces of nuts warning label - you going to get something in there you don't want

 

just saying

[igg]

FYI

 

Oats are not related to gluten-containing grains such as wheat, barley and rye. They don't contain gluten, but rather proteins called avenins that are non-toxic and tolerated by most celiacs (perhaps less than 1% of celiac patients show a reaction to a large amount of oats in their diets).

 

I grew up eating wheat based stuff like bread, pies, pizza, pasta, etc.. I used to be able to eat oats. Not anymore, the results are... unpleasant.

 

Side-note: finding compact snacks for on bike nutrition that doesn't contain wheat and doesn't disintegrate/stick to your pocket is an exercise in futility.

[JannievanZyl]

depends but I doubt it, without a supplement I don't see anyone eating 1.5grams protein per kg of body mass and that's just to maintain muscle.

Did a quick calculation on the meals I described above.

 

1. Bacon & Eggs

2. Chicken Salad

3. Steak and salad

 

95g Fat, 20g Carbs, 134g protein.

 

That 134g of protein is enough for a guy weighing 111Kg at 20% body fat.

 

And, you'll agree, most guys of 111Kg is goign to eat much more than the 3 small meals I posted above. so their protein intake is going to be much higher.

 

Thus; absolutely no need to make USN rich drinking their Whey protein powder you're going to convert to sugar in any case as your body is already full of aminos.