Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Stretch]

Quite an interesting read on age/performance in running...

 

 

http://www.runnersworld.com/masters/age-matters-for-marathoning

 

I ran my first marathon in Feb 2015 at the rip old age of 39 years and 11 months

[Andrew Steer]

I ran my first marathon in Feb 2015 at the rip old age of 39 years and 11 months

Hopefully in 4yrs time I will be fast like you 

[SeaBee]

Two things:

Firstly, I only started running less than 2y ago. So it's all fresh to me... and I was doing it to supplement W2W training, so getting injured was NOT an option. Take it really slowly, increase mileage very very gently. Incredibly, I think it took me about alomost 2 months to get to 5k's! From there it got better pretty quickly. 

Then secondly, on the age topic. I ran my first marathon last year, aged 45. So that may also have been why I was so slow in "transitioning" (them ole bones ain't been running for a long time! ) into running... But for me performance is a side issue. I still am more of a mtb'er than a runner... I think!   Yes, I recently entered for my second - along with a haul of trail runs this year.

[Ferret69]

Quite an interesting read on age/performance in running...

 

 

http://www.runnersworld.com/masters/age-matters-for-marathoning

 

Cant Agree more, I'm 38 now and this year alone I've smashed my 15km and 21kms PB's from when I was 20. and also taken over 25mins off my Marathon PB from when I was 30. all in the same year..

 

Only PB's I'm yet to catch are the 5 and 10km... but I'm not that far off.

 

And at 38 I feel I'm in my prime to have a proper dip at the ultras like Oceans and comrades.

[Stretch]

Hopefully in 4yrs time I will be fast like you 

 

ha ha Ferret makes all of us look like we are going backwards

[SwissVan]

Cant Agree more, I'm 38 now and this year alone I've smashed my 15km and 21kms PB's from when I was 20. and also taken over 25mins off my Marathon PB from when I was 30. all in the same year..

 

Only PB's I'm yet to catch are the 5 and 10km... but I'm not that far off.

 

And at 38 I feel I'm in my prime to have a proper dip at the ultras like Oceans and comrades.

 

 

38...bladdy spring chicken

Best u do those PB's b4 u reach 50...

[ScottCM]

@Ferret, I see your mate James did Om Die Dam in Sub 4 hours, that's really amazing. What are your and his goals for Comrades, Silver?

[Ferret69]

@Ferret, I see your mate James did Om Die Dam in Sub 4 hours, that's really amazing. What are your and his goals for Comrades, Silver?

 

Yep, he had a good comfortable ODD and snuck under 4 which was great.  I'm using Oceans as my ultra (also hopefully a comfortable 4.20ish) and then we are both doing the Route tester 56km on the 17th April as our last long runs. And then Slowmag a week later as our final marathon.

 

Yeah, Silver is definitely the main goal for Comrades for both of us, anything quicker is a bonus but ill take 7h29.59 right now if I could. We are on very similar training plans .

 

So far so good.. but the big miles only really start now in April.... but we all know its only what happens on the day that really counts.

Edited March 16, 2016 by Ferret69

[Stretch]

 

 

So far so good.. but the big miles only really start now in April.... but we all know its only what happens on the day that really counts.

I was plagued by injury in April last year...so I am hoping this year I have done enough strength work and stretching to avoid that..I also ran my ultra at the beginning of April hard last year...this year I am going to take it very easy..probably going to run with my brother in law who has been pretty much out of action the whole of Feb...try get him a D seeding

[ScottCM]

 I know hundreds if not thousands of people whom would kill to be able to run 56km's in sub 5 let alone 4:20ish and you can do it "comfortably" You really do have a running talent. Good luck and may you reach all your aspirations

 

By the way, what training program are you on? LP's silver program?

[Ferret69]

I was plagued by injury in April last year...so I am hoping this year I have done enough strength work and stretching to avoid that..I also ran my ultra at the beginning of April hard last year...this year I am going to take it very easy..probably going to run with my brother in law who has been pretty much out of action the whole of Feb...try get him a D seeding

 

 

Yep, Racing is done for the year. No use trying to better seeding's now unless it can be done with an easy effort.

 

I actually haven't "raced" anything over 21kms since my 2 hard marathons in September and November last year. 

 

But as you said I do focus on one gym session, one hill session and one TT or Track session per week to keep the speed and strength up, and I run back to back long runs on weekends (usually 20/30) to get the feeling of running my long runs on tired legs..

 

But you have hit the nail on the head... April May is about avoiding injury or illness by still trying to pick up the miles..

[Ferret69]

 I know hundreds if not thousands of people whom would kill to be able to run 56km's in sub 5 let alone 4:20ish and you can do it "comfortably" You really do have a running talent. Good luck and may you reach all your aspirations

 

By the way, what training program are you on? LP's silver program?

 

When I say comfortably I mean from a HR point of view... I train and race very much on HR so even though I can control that nothing about 56kms is easy.. The legs will still get tired and sore and the mind still needs to stay sharp and with it for the full 4hrs.

 

From a Training Point of view , No I don't use LP's online programmes but I do use a lot of his training theories and I have chatted to him on a few occasions this year to get some advice and confirmation that what I'm doing is on track. 

 

I think the online programmes are obviously very generic and although they will get you through comrades it doesn't necessarily mean it will get you to your optimal potential.

 

And lets not forget he makes his living from coaching people, so if he put all his secrets on a generic programme he would be cutting off his living..

 

I stick to his theories of never increasing week on week mileage by more than 10%, but plan my own programmes and adapt and change them as I feel necessary.

[Vinnydabutcher]

@Ferret - I like where your head`s at!

 

Been doing something fairly similar - hoping it works out!!!!

[Andrew Steer]

Feeling a little bit better about things after a 'solid' weekend of training... three runs in the three days, just over 30kms in total. Still Mickey Mouse stuff, but felt okay and little in the way of niggles. Gives me a glimmer of hope I might make that start line   

This weekend, Oceans 22km Trail run, weekend after a 21km, weekend after a 32km and the weekend after that my qualifier 

Then probably just one long slow training run (RAC) and maybe another marathon, but focus will be conditioning with lots of small runs.

 

Hou bene hou

[Stretch]

Feeling a little bit better about things after a 'solid' weekend of training... three runs in the three days, just over 30kms in total. Still Mickey Mouse stuff, but felt okay and little in the way of niggles. Gives me a glimmer of hope I might make that start line   

 

This weekend, Oceans 22km Trail run, weekend after a 21km, weekend after a 32km and the weekend after that my qualifier 

Then probably just one long slow training run (RAC) and maybe another marathon, but focus will be conditioning with lots of small runs.

 

Hou bene hou

 

Keep it up Andrew. so no niggles at all with the Calf? the sexy socks helping?

 

driving this morning I felt a little tightness in my left ITB (no issues on the run this morning though) gonna give it a good stretch when i get home.

[Andrew Steer]

Keep it up Andrew. so no niggles at all with the Calf? the sexy socks helping?

 

driving this morning I felt a little tightness in my left ITB (no issues on the run this morning though) gonna give it a good stretch when i get home.

 

Sexy socks seem to be helping   

Achilles a little tight and can feel the ITB cranking itself tighter, but managing things as well as I can. Resting today, so will stretch up a storm later