What % sag are you running on your trail bike?

[Matchstix]

What bike is your Xc bike? Where do you ride most of the time?

[Myth]

I know what the op is talking about. The fork is ok, but it just doesnt seem to handle much of whats on the trail. It is either travelling too far or travelling too slow. It feels like you have no idea what to expect.

 

I have the Fox34 CTD. Last year I upgraded the damper to the Fit4 and man what a huge improvement. I have a completely different fork with the upgrade. It is far more responsive and soaks up everything.[/quote

 

That is exactly what I am talking about, Eddie.

 

Where can I buy an upgrade like this for my fork? Or, alternatively (and way more expensive option), where can I buy a 130mm pike? Starting to sound like the fork is maybe just not good enough...

[Myth]

What bike is your Xc bike? Where do you ride most of the time?

Xc bike is an Anthem 29er. I ride Spruit, Big red barn, Wolwespruit and Northern farm mostly. I ride all of the above with both my bikes, but the trail bike is probably the best of the two for Wolwespruit, while the xc bike is definitely much faster at all the other locations. I also do quite a bit of riding in Hermanus every now and then, it's really in Hermanus on some of the more technical and steep trails that I really started to get annoyed with the trail bike's fork's feel...almost saw my a$$ a few times when I had the fork in open position on downhills due to the unpredictability...

[Eddy Gordo]

Where can I buy an upgrade like this for my fork? Or, alternatively (and way more expensive option), where can I buy a 130mm pike? Starting to sound like the fork is maybe just not good enough...

Your LBS should be able to assist with and upgrade of the damper or even a new fork. 

You can try Dubbelbuys on the forum. He sometimes sell pikes

[Myth]

Awesome, will start hunting for an upgrade first...

[Matchstix]

I am n sure about the sag on th fork. In the past with fox forks I had, I use to run about 20psi more than recommended for my weight. I felt I was just going through travel way to fast.

On the climbs the slacker head angle will feel a bit more flip flop. I don't know how long you've had the bike or if you are more use to a 29 er. But the smaller wheels might feel less "stable" than 29er and slacker headangle will feel different especially on steep climbs.

[Matchstix]

I would actually first try a different fork before you buy. Not sure the fork is the problem.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Xc bike is an Anthem 29er. I ride Spruit, Big red barn, Wolwespruit and Northern farm mostly. I ride all of the above with both my bikes, but the trail bike is probably the best of the two for Wolwespruit, while the xc bike is definitely much faster at all the other locations. I also do quite a bit of riding in Hermanus every now and then, it's really in Hermanus on some of the more technical and steep trails that I really started to get annoyed with the trail bike's fork's feel...almost saw my a$$ a few times when I had the fork in open position on downhills due to the unpredictability...

YOur thunderbolt should be faster than the anthem pretty much everywhere... 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I would actually first try a different fork before you buy. Not sure the fork is the problem.

It's a fox 32 EVO CTD. That's the picture you see in the dictionary when you look up pieceofshit

[Matchstix]

Hahahahaha. I have not ridden the fork, but even a rct3 pike can feel crap

if it's setup wrong for you riding style.

[AlanD]

It's a fox 32 EVO CTD. That's the picture you see in the dictionary when you look up pieceofshit

LOL

[Myth]

I am n sure about the sag on th fork. In the past with fox forks I had, I use to run about 20psi more than recommended for my weight. I felt I was just going through travel way to fast.

On the climbs the slacker head angle will feel a bit more flip flop. I don't know how long you've had the bike or if you are more use to a 29 er. But the smaller wheels might feel less "stable" than 29er and slacker headangle will feel different especially on steep climbs.

Sure, but I can definitely "isolate" the wheel feeling. I can feel my 29er's wheels flex a lot more than the 650b, yet that's a very predictable flex which I can deal with. I have the 650 b for longer than the 29er too (coming for a 26er). I agree about the comment about the slacker head angle, again a fixed variable that I can actually feel when climbing. It's really the unpredictability of what to expect from the fork that's driving me nuts. To be honest, my 29er which is newer just felt a lot more predictable right form the start, even without having spent as time trying to perfect the setup than I have already had/done with the trail bike.

 

That's what was also strange to me Eddie, when I bought the thunderbolt, everyone raves about them and yes it is an absolutely awesome bike from my experience so far, it's just this one little thing that really lets it down and that I can't seem to get dialed.

[Rock Guy]

I would suggest playing around with your rebound and setting your sag at 20 - 30 %, depending on how hard you hit stuff.

 

This video helped me get my rebound just right:

https://youtu.be/umyreA4trv8

 

I hate spending money so I will always try to rule out all the no/low cost possibilities first. That said, I eventually gave up on my Fox 32 evolution CTD, it was crap. I now ride a pike, but I do about 50% downhill and really only go up so I can come back down. If you don't ride very hard the Fox Evo might still be okay though.

[Matchstix]

Not sure if this will be in th same boat. But can take this, reduce travel to 130. For the price not bad.

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/172282-fox-34-float-650b-ctd/

 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Not sure if this will be in th same boat. But can take this, reduce travel to 130. For the price not bad. https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/172282-fox-34-float-650b-ctd/

Nope. Evo CTD. AKA pieceofshit no low speed compression support. Same problem as the 32 of that era.